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week 4 threads

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Weekly Threads: Week 4

This week's threads are brought to you by:
Nina Liakos in Maryland, USA with help from Gladys Baya, Cheryl Oakes,

Dafne Gonzalez and the BaW team. Thank you!
Date: 05 February 2007 - 11 February, 2007
Messages:  from #1791 to #2185 or thereabouts 

 

 

  1. Week Four, Beginning and Ending
  2. Week 3 Carryover
  3. Week 3 Tools
    1. Blogs
    2. Clocks and Other Widgets.
    3.  Podcasts
    4. Wikis
    5. Protopage, Yahoo! Pipes
  4. Feeling Overwhelmed
  5. Miscellaneous
  6. Threads
  7.  Week 4 Live Sessions
    1. Jonathan Finkelstein at LearningTimes/Elluminate
    2. Geoff  Kaye at DiscoverE
  8. Leanne MacKenzie #1871 Feb 5 I've rushed right over to RSVP, then realized that I will probably only make the Saturday presentation, NOT the Tuesday (due to time differences). So please forgive my bungling this simple task <blushing>. BTW, when I tried to install the DiscoverE software, it wouldn't work with my Netscape, but I had perfect success with IE. Has anyone else had this problem? What about Firefox? Moira Hunter #1885 Feb 6 Dearest Leanne, Thank you for rushing!!!!!! That's the main thing :-))  BTW, apparently blushing is good for the skin!  I don't know about Netscape so can't answer there but I have used both IE and Firefox and had no problems. It does seem that some people are having problems with Firefox but you must run the programme when asked and not download, and of course, Firefox deals with downloads differently (go to Firefox, tools and downloads and you see the list and there you can open them if required). I wonder whether that helps? Moira Hunter #1899 Feb 6 It appears some people are having problems accessing DiscoverE with Firefox. I access this virtual classroom with Firefox regularly and have no problems.  However, to avoid any problems on the day, I advise that if you are one of these people mentioned above, just use Internet Explorer and you will have no problems :-))  Please remember to add Mabel Quiroga and Christina Ljunggren (alias Chrissan) and myself to your YM and Skype contact lists.  Please complete the Database in the Yahoo Group too, so Geoff can have an idea of the size of his audience. Looking forward to seeing you all there :-) Eleanor #1913 Feb 6 I am trying to download and install the program for the lecture that is due to take place in 30 minutes - but the link is dead. Any suggestions? Moira Hunter #1928 Feb 6 Hello Eleanor, I'm sorry but by the time I received this email, I was already in the room welcoming the participants and helping people through YM and Skype.  You have not added me to your contact lists. Have you added Chrissan and Mabel? If not, please do so as this is vital. The link is corrrect and working http://www.compued.com.au/discovere/webheads/ Did you follow the instructions in the wiki in Week 4 and run the programme, not install it?  Let me know how you get on and hopefully you will be there for Geoff's second session on Saturday :-) Dafne Gonzalez #1915 Feb 6   #1918 I had to click three times on the page to get it to open. My problem started later. I have been for almost an hour trying to access the room with no success :-(  I have installed, unistalled the application, rebooted, and nothing. So, here I am knowing that the session is going on now (I can even see the names of the people who are attending, but that's about it) :-(   Well, the session is not over yet, but I took a screenshot of my ordeal trying to get there: http://baw07.pbwiki.com/f/tn_discovere.jpg Daf col (crying out loud) Teresa d'Eca #1919 Feb 6
  9. Hala Fawzi #1933 Feb 6
  10. Moira Hunter #1927 Feb 6
  11. Moira Hunter #1984 Feb 7
  12. Cheryl Oakes #1992 Feb 7
  13. Moira Hunter #2113 Feb 10
    1. Jane Bozarth at Learning Times/Elluminate
  14.  Moira Hunter #2045 Feb 8  I'd like to really thank Jane for coming today to be with us. Jane is not a part of this online community (yet ...) and kindly accepted my invitation to be a Guest Speaker in this Week of Voices. And what a voice and online presence she has!  We certainly had to hold onto our 'virtual hats' for 60 minutes of collaborative learning! I did warn you all in the wiki about Week 4 ;-)  I think that everybody left the session with thoughts, ideas and of course questions .... a great event and thank you, Jane! For those who were able to be present, please go to the blog and leave those thoughts and comments - the post is there! I am waiting for the recording from Learning Times and will put the link there as soon as I have it for those who couldn't be there today.  Jane Bozarth #2051 Feb 8 What a good time today in our live session via Elluminate! Many thanks to those who got up at dawn to be there... and many thanks for inviting me.  While today's session was more about using the product-specific tools, especially the whiteboard, I am offering the more traditional "Shoestring" program FREE next Tuesday at 1 pm New York time (I will never understand "time zone maths", but it's 2 hours later than today's session was...) . This will cover basics of building e-learning solutions with very little, or no, budget. Register <https://insync.webex.com/mw0304l/mywebex/personalroom/personalroom.do?siteurl=insync&AT=meet&username=PublicTrainingRoom> here (this is offered via InSync Training <http://www.insynctraining.com/> and will use the WebEx virtual classroom tool. Be sure to download and tech check prior to session time. See 'training center--set up--training manager when you register.) I hope to see you then-- and thanks again, Webheads!  Laura #2053 Feb 8 I really enjoyed the Elluminate session. I think you did a great job involving everyone in the lesson but but I was a little overwhelmed with all of the tools. Will there be any other opportunity for us to attend a session using Elluminate? Jane Bozarth #2054 Feb 8 Moira and the other community leaders can answer that better than I. I was offered a choice of tools for the session, and I chose Elluminate. Many of the virtual classroom products share a number of the features you saw today (chat, whiteboard, polling, a few emoticons, etc.) I especially like Elluminate's object-oriented whiteboard-- not all products have that. I would bet that elluminate offers free demos on their site. Dafne Gonzalez #2055 Feb 8 Jonathan kindly set up the Elluminate Webheads room at LT for Webheads. Once you finish this session, and join Webheads in Action, you will be able to use this room. We frequently use it for PD events and for sessions with our students.  When we started using this room, we gathered there with other webheads to explore the different features.  In other words, you will have many opportunities to play around with Elluminate. There is always a webhead ready to join you in the F.U.N :-)  Dafne Gonzalez #2056 Feb 8
    1.  Andrew Pincon at Alado
  15. Week 4 Tools 
    1. Comparing Voice Tools
    2. Evoca
    3. Gabmail, Gabjam, Springdoo, HandyBits... and Moira's Glasses
    4. Chinswing
    5. MyChingo
    6. Elluminate
    7. DimDim
  16. Figuring out Time Zones
    1. Participants' Discoveries
    2. Videos About the Internet
    3.  Tags and How to Use Them
    4.  Reflections

     

     

    Week Four, Beginning and Ending

     

     

    Moira Hunter
    #1791
    Feb. 4


    Hello everybody and Welcome to the Week of Voice !!

    My name's Moira and I am your Moderator for the week, together with co-moderators Chrissan in Sweden and Mabel in Argentina.  If you want to see who we are, just check out the wiki here for our profiles http://baw07.pbwiki.com/Moderators

    If you have not done so already, please add our Yahoo Messenger and Skype IDs to your contact lists.

    We are at the halfway point in our workshop and in this week we will be looking at voice mail, video mail and virtual classrooms, so have your headsets ready and mics unmuted!!  It's a busy week with five real-time sessions with Guest Speakers so please look carefully at the wiki now in order to be well prepared before the sessions. http://baw07.pbwiki.com/week4

    All readings for this week are waiting to be discussed in the Forum http://www.miumu.com/phpbb/baw07.html
    Please go there and leave your thoughts :-)

    This week, we have the great pleasure of hearing all the incredible voices of the BaWers, and of putting a voice to a picture and to a name! So happy recording!!!

    There are many voice tools proposed but you do not have to try them all. If you just try one, that is already a great start. This is just an introduction to these tools and nobody is expected to become a master of them, so let's begin the fun week together with Evoca as Graham mentioned it in his podcasting presentation :-)

    To discover this tool together, I have created a group for us at Evoca http://www.evoca.com/groups/baw07
    You can click on the link and listen to the message but to leave a message, you must sign up – free of course :-)

    And yes, you can put this into your blog or wiki or web page:-)http://baw07participants.pbwiki.com/Moira's%20Page
    Let's get talking!!!

     Hala Fawzi

    #1887

    Feb 6

    Cora, Cheryl, Nina and Gladys on the threads' yard:Thank you for doing a wonderful job on week 3! Welcome to week 4, moderated by Moira and co -moderated by dear friend Chrissan and our beauty Mabel.  An advice to all novice: Stay close to your Moira, look for her on all platforms, do not let go of her, on Skype,YM, and all voice channels available.Why? You will get the chance to learn how to integrate these tools successfully into classrooms and with your online learners.She is good at it!!  She will do the best she can to help you out, this week and week 5!!!!!!!  Welcome again!

     Moira Hunter

    #2110

    Feb 10

    The Week 4 Sailing Team (Moira,Chrissan and Mabel) are coming to the end of "The Week of Voice" and would like to hear you all sharing your experiences in the EVO Wrap Up session on Sunday!  We want to hear YOU, the participants in BaW07!!!!!!!
    Jeff of Worldbridges is eagerly waiting to hear all your feedback after a week of discovery, great creations and wonderful sharing and learning :-))
    On Sunday just before 15.00 GMT, go here to listen and participate in the text chat room http://webheadsinaction.org/
    And to participate with YOUR voice and in the voice chat, go to the skypecast by clicking here
    https://skypecasts.skype.com/skypecasts/skypecast/detailed.html?id_talk=396284&hash=20576d5837b248cf6a51
    Remember to be on Skype, have your skype details ready if you have not saved these on your computer as you'll need them to enter the voice chat (or skypecast). We've cetainly been talking a lot as promised, using tools like Springdoo, MyCHiingo, Chinswing, Gabmail, Evoca .... and in the virtual rooms of Alado, DimDim, DiscoverE and Elluminate, not to forget Yahoo Messenger and Skype!
    Chrissan, Mabel and I 'christened' our week "The Week 4 Sailing Team" and as we come to the end of our 'trip', we really want to see and hear you there with your thoughts and comments!!!!! Jeff will be sending a reminder later so mark it down in your diary and book your cyberseat!! Looking forward to seeing and hearing you!

     Mabel Quiroga

    #2162

    Feb 11

    3 out of 5 session pages for week 4 are ready in the Wiki (the other two coming up real soon!)
    http://baw07.pbwiki.com/Finkelstein-Elluminate
    http://baw07.pbwiki.com/GKaye-Discovere
    http://baw07.pbwiki.com/Bozarth-Elearning-on-a-shoestring
    You can also access them from the main page for Week 4 (links at the bottom of the page) and from the Speakers and Chat session pages....

    Hala Fawzi

    #2182

    Feb 11

    Great work Mabel! Clear, organized,elegant and very informative! Congratulations!You did a wonderful job!

    Moira Hunter

    #2168

    Feb 11

    Hey Mabel!!  Where is the link for the famous maté motime blog????  Thanks for the session pages - they are terrific!!! For those of you reading, Mabel is the delegated Sessions Page Queen for Week 4 as we have 5 live Guest Speaker sessions and three live DimDim sessions!!!! Busy week coming to an end.

    Moira Hunter

    #2170

    Feb 11

    Week 4 has rushed past and we are now at the end of the ‘Week of Voice’! I think we’ve all had the WOW factor somewhere and at some time in this week! There have been some fantastic exchanges going on, projects being set up and implemented with students and hands-on learning with the different voice tools. I have certainly felt the online BUZZ going on in the background!  We’ve discovered different virtual classroom technologies and I’d like to thank all the Guest Speakers who accepted to be part of this week, giving us a  ‘taster’ of the interactive and collaborative learning which can be achieved in a virtual classroom. I’d like to thank DimDim for letting us ‘play’ with their web-baby, although still in Alpha :-)  Above all, I’d like to thank YOU all for taking the plunge and ‘getting dirty’ with these tools! It’s the best way to learn!!!  Please keep the answers for Week 4 coming in and please leave your thoughts on the blog and the forum. Although the week is over, the learning continues :-))) I’d like to thank the two co-moderators for Week 4, Chrissan and Mabel. Our Sailing Team has had a relatively smooth voyage, which considering the content of five official 1 hour long live sessions and three unoffical 2 hour long live sessions, is amazing!! A special thanks to Mabel who came on board at the last minute and came up trumps all the way :-)))  It would be nice to have your feedback on Week 4 so please drop a line, good or bad, here in the list :-) You’re now in the hands of two Moderators, Hala and Cris, for Week 5, together with three co-moderators, Ramona, Fernanda and Elisabeth.  Enjoy !!!!

    Cristina Costa

    #2171

    Feb 11

    The week 4 was a week full of energy and excitement. We have tried lots of tools and interacted a lot in different venues. It was real learning in real time! We had a great time and learned a lot. Thank you for the shining example. We hope to be able to follow your steps and motivate our participants for one more week of exciting learning!
    All the best,
    Keep excited!!!!

    Sharon Betts

    #2173

    Feb 11

    Week four was a blur of activity. I thnk I learned more this week than I have in the last 6 months and I thank everyone. I am ususally unable to participate in the "live" presentations, but have spent numerous hours listening to you all later :)  And now to week five.

    Teresa d'Eca

    #2180

    Feb 11

    "Thank you" and "congrats" on your fabulous work this week. It was very "smooth sailing", but Daf and I know well at what expense that happens.  Everything went very well, with lots of great presentations and new tools explored.  A special "congrats" to Mabel, because, as Moira reminded us this afternoon in the EVO Skypecast, it was her first co-moderation job, and she did very well. I wasn't able to follow the week as I'd wished, but the message flow and the subject lines were enough to show the commitment and enthusiasm. "Thank you" also to the participants for being so involved. It's overwhelming, but it pays, you'll see. Luckily I was able to make the presentations and really enjoyed them. "Thank you" to all guest speakers for being here for us for the first time - Jane Bozarth and Geoff Kaye - and once again - Jonathan Finkelstein and Andy Pincon. Week 5 is also in 5 great hands - what a coincidence! - and we have a great guest speaker with an eye-opening presentation. Don't miss Isabel's presentation on Thursday. On behalf of Daf and myself, "thank you" again on a job well done. And "break a leg" to the next week's mods and co-mods: Hala and Cristina, Fernanda, Ramona and Elisabeth.

    Cora Chen

    #2185

    Feb 11

    What a fantastic job you have done! Congratulations on your successful voyage!  Moira has done wonderful planning for all the activities for week 4, which has led to a fun, exciting voyage of learning. Chrissan and Mabel have also helped to make everything go smoothly. Thank you all ! I wish I had had the time to participate in all of your activities during Week 4. Due to the time zone differences and my busy work schedule, I was able to attend only one of the live sessions given by guest speakers. I hope I will have the chance to try out all of the voice tools when I have more time.  Thank you again! :-)))

     

    Week 3 Carryover

     


    Nina Liakos
    #1802
    Feb 4
    Angeles, if it is any consolation to you, it's also difficult for me to follow the presentation and the chat simultaneously, despite being a native speaker of English! I am in awe of those of you who are doing this in your second language.

    Dafne Gonzalez
    #1813
    Feb 4

    Multitasking is a matter of practice. Usually when we are in these live sessions, we are listening, sometimes speaking, reading and writing in the chat, taking screenshots for the session page, helping participants with problems in YM, and asking people around f2f to leave us alone because we are working.
      Dafne Gonzalez
    #1792
    Feb 4
    Here's the page for Graham's presentation.  http://baw07.pbwiki.com/Graham-Alado
    I will add the link to the recording as soon as Andy sends it to us :-)

     Cora Chen

    #1820

    Feb 4

    Thank you so much for making another wonderful page for the guest presentations!

     

     

    Week 3 Tools

     

    Blogs


    Nelba
    #1795
    Feb 4

    The question is the following: I want to post a photo which is quite big ( 1oo%-890x594)but it appears too small in the blog. What could  the problem be?

     

    Nelba
    #1797
    Feb 4
    Hi, Amy: great job. Very interesting... tell me where did you get the map and the clock telling the time in Greece?

     Amy Meckelborg

    #1949

    Feb 6

    Sorry it has taken me a few days to respond. This week is particularly busy at work. Thanks for your kind words about my blog. I actually
    took the picture from Wikipedia but there it was identified as public domain from the CIA World Factbook. The clock is from ClockLink
    http://www.clocklink.com/ <http://www.clocklink.com> and all you have to do is put in the name of the city for which you want the time and they do all the rest. Very easy!

    Sarah Braxton

    #1822

    Feb 5

    Jennifer,
    Great idea for a blog! I love the map. When I added myself I noticed that the map and many of your widgets (is that the right term?) on the right side extend over the margin of the blog space. Is it possible to align them (or maybe you want them this way?)?  Thanks for sharing,

    Sarah Braxton

    #

    Feb 5

    Hello from freezing cold Pennsylvania, USA! Finally I have a blog on Blogger. The only posting is about the big news of today - the Super Bowl football game. The Indianapolis Colts are playing the Chicago Bears. My family is torn between these teams.
    I grew up in Richmond, Indiana and my parents still live there. My father attends every Indianapolis Colts game. My boys were born in
    Chicago, and my oldest son Sam will be attending the University of Chicago next year. Which team do I want to win? Either is fine, but I
    hope Indianapolis wins! Learn more about the Colts on my blog: http://jvhslibraria n.blogspot. com/

    Kagan Sutcu

    #1826

    Feb 5  

    Hi Sarah,
    I really like your blog, especially the Colts video gadget. I copied it to my blog. My blog looks like a junkyard now:)

    Jennifer Verschoor
    #1806
    Feb 4
    I forgot to mention that I have two other blogs in cyberspace!! My first public wiki is coming soon thanks to all of you I´ll give it a try
    www.jenverschoor.wordpress.com
    www.jenverschoor.blogspot.com

    Nahir Aparicio
    #1808
    Feb 4
    Thanks for visiting. In Wordpress, the theme gives you a choice of colors when you select it. My theme is Toni (in pink). I don't remember if Blogger gave me the option for colors, but there is another blog in which I used a template they don't have http://no-quiero-mas.blogspot.com/  I got the template from http://blogger-templates.blogspot.com/  I visited your (Sarah Braxton's) blog, it's really nice with beautiful colors. I wrote a comment. Congratulations for your first blog!

     Liliana Ferreira

    #1755

    Feb 4

    Hi everyone, wanted to share my very first experience in blogging. Still needs a lot of work, but here goes: http://liliclotildeblogspot.motime.com/

    Dennis Oliver

    #1742

    Feb 4

    I've "built" an experimental audioblog called 'Scuse me? You can find it here: http://scuzeme.motime.com/ 

    I look forward to your comments.

    Maru del Campo

    #1867

    Feb 5

    To change my blog into English by selecting languages on the top right corner of the "Dashboard" page after I logged in my blog account did not work. It changed the frame of the blog but the template content remained in Spanish. Any
    other suggestion?

    Gladys Baya

    #2014

    Feb 7

    As regards your blog, you can again link it to the SideBar of your wiki, as an external link, but not makle it appear under "Show all
    pages"... I think the only way to solve the language mixture in your template is to choose a template that has everything in English, but I might be wrong... For further help on that, let us know whether you're using the old or new Blogger... Hope that helps!

    Poppy Steele

    #1904

    Feb 6

    The school in which I work does not want us to open our blog to anyone outside of our group of students here. I do
    understand their concern over security, but I also know that I cannot benefit as much from the class nor the students from an international feedback on their comments. What are your thoughts?... I saw in a blog that was done by a baw07 student, the one about the solar house, where she incorporated photos dropping on top of each other. I was
    wanting to find out how she did that to use with the field trips our students attend. I can't remember whose it was. Can anyone help? Thank you! I love this course so very much! We feel like pioneers here!!

     Ester La Torre

    #2037

    Feb 8

    I have created a blog http://www.edidablog.it/b2evolution/blogs//index.php?blog=317&skin=natural_pink (a resource blog)with b2evolution, and I wonder if someone could help me explaining how to organize an archive and have activities divided in different
    months so that I can click on the specific month and see them. I have the same problem with another blog http://www.estest.splinder.com/ I could change the template and add a video, but I need some advice. Thanks a lot

     Gladys Baya

    #2117

    Feb 10

    Hi Ester! I'm catching up with my reading for BAW, and here are the replies you've had at Blogging for Beginners, where Moira requested help on your behalf on Feb 9:
    ---
    Carla Arena wrote on Feb 9:
    Dear Moira,
    I couldn't access the link Ester provided. Could you check with her the URL for the blogs? Well, I've never worked with b2revolution, but
    generally, in any blog, the archive is organized automatically. Probably she'll have an option in the administrative area to decide if she wants the archive to be weekly or monthly. If she can give us more info on her blog, maybe we could give her more
    assistance. Ask her to contact us, then we'll help her.
    -----
    Gladys Baya (that's me!) wrote on Feb 10:
    I've been to Ester's blogs (she is not in our session, I think, I'd never seen these blogs before): http://www.edidablog.it/b2evolution/blogs/
    There's already a monthly archive on the side bar, so I don't think that's what Ester needs to add... What is it then? I was surprised to
    see there are hundreds of entries for each month!?! I also visited: http://www.estest.splinder.com/ (Luckily for me this was in a language I'm more familiar with!)but I noticed all links related with Blog metadata (including the archives)were broken, showing $ at the beginning and end. I don't know why this happens or how to solve it, but since I'm having the same problem with one of my links at Blogger, I'll post back if I manage to work it out... I had never heard of Splinder before, BTW... there are hundreds of free blog hosts out there, aren't there?

     Ester LaTorre

    #2169

    Feb 11

    Hi Moira Carla and Gladys,
    thank you for your help, I hope I'll find a solution,as Carla writes the archive is organized automatically, I opted for a monthly
    archive but so far I only have two months and I can't undersatnd why. For Splinder there are broken links because I changed the template
    and I did something wrong. I was looking for a solution to the the problems and i found this site http://www.weblogmatrix.org/
    it is a site useful " to compare the features of all those weblog tools you heard of. WeblogMatrix is here to help you decide which
    weblog is the best for your needs. You can compare, choose and discuss the various Weblogs and their features." Is it really useful?

    Clevia Perez

    #1948

    Feb 6

    I'm a little behind with activities since I'm back to work, but I've been reading the postings and updating as much as I can.  I'd like to share a blog I created for my listening/speaking students with the intention of knowing their feelings regarding the speaking activities we do in class.  Please, check it out and make suggestions since this is my very first blog and even though I saw Bee's presentation, I'm still not sure I'm giving it the right use... http://speaking01.blogspot.com/

    Ronaldo Lima

    #1989

    Feb 7

    I'm a little behind in the schedule because I have just gotten back from my (deserved) vacation trip, so I'm hurrying trying to catch up with you guys.  I have created two blogs with the same content but in different hosts, so if you could visit them and leave a comment I'd appreciate it! I was going to try edublogs.org too, but they are not accepting new accounts this week for some kind of update within their system, but they suggest the following hosts: * uniblogs.org <http://uniblogs.org/wp-signup.php>, learnerblogs.org<http://learnerblogs.org/wp-signup.php>and eslblogs.org <http://eslblogs.org/wp-signup.php> - has anybody ever tried any of these? Well, *here goes the links for my blogs:
    http://my5b.blogspot.com/ and http://my5b.motime.com/
    Two years ago I used geocities to host a webpage for one group of mine. Since it was a group which met only once a week (on Saturdays), meaning that when one student needed to miss a class he/she would be half a month without (formal) English practice, I saw the necessity of having this webpage. If you have time, take a look and tell me what you think. I never did this again because I found geocities too time-consuming in some aspects... Here goes the link: http://www.geocities.com/teacher_ronaldo/4asaturday.html
    That's all! Kind regards from Brazil

    Nelba

    #1990

    Feb 7

    Dear Ronaldo, I visited your two blogs and I would like to ask you if you want us to answer the question to your students, or make a comment on the blog. I loved what the cursor does in the URL of geocities... cool

    Ronaldo Lima

    #1991

    Feb 7

    Thanks for the support, Nelba! I would love some comments on the blog, because since I'll only start teaching these groups in one week and I'll wait one more week to introduce the blog idea to my students, I'll have enough time to "refresh" the post and comments for them.

    Jose Antonio da Silva

    #2019

    Feb 8

    I liked your blogs. The one in Geocities looks fantastic. You are on the right track, trying different blog hosts to see one that is more fit to your audience. You will probably now play with different templates and see the one you like most. Blogging sometimes is like getting dressed to a party. You try an outifit look at the mirror and change your mind and this happens many times, at least that is what happens to me. Good luck and thanks for sharing your blogs.

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #2013

    Feb 7

    Podmatic is great as voice blog, but the voice quality is not good when recording on the web, so I upload
    voice files from Audacity. This is the podomatic blog I am using this trimester: http://cities-buildings.podomatic.com
    I think that each tools can be used for different purposes, that's why we should know how they work, their advantages and drawbacks, to be able to make wise decisions when needed :-)

    Susana Araujo

    #2096

    Feb 9

    I've been hidden for the last two weeks... I apologise you and our wonderful moderators for not contributing to the past weekly sessions, although I've been following your messages and your playing around with e-toys. What an excellent work you are doing here! I'm learning and absorbing so much that I get really upset for not being able to keep your pace and trying the tools with you...I'm doing another online course in Portugal and this together with school work and house and husband (he's being my precious F1 help)...Well, I'm still managing to read all the messages. I don´t want to miss anything.  And...I also want to say I've been working in the background creating a page in Multiply which I'd like you to visit and leave your comments ;-)  It's in http://susiearaujo.multiply.com/ . Here I'm going to gather
    all my adventures as a Teacher of English using e-tools to enhance foreign languages learning/teaching.
    Thanks in advance for your visit and your comments ;-)

    Cora Chen

    #2097

    Feb 9

    Susana, Your Multiply page looks wonderful and neat with lots of links. Congratulations on your new creation! In this workshop, you can try out web tools at your own pace. Many of us have very busy lives, and I understand your situation. Just take it easy, you can continue to try out web tools even after the official end of this session. Never too late to share you work with us. Thank you very much for sharing. Congratulations again! :-)))

    Moira Hunter

    #2105

    Feb 10

    This looks really great and I would strongly advise everybody to go to the blog and watch the video!!!!

    Angeles Berman

    #2098

    Feb 9

    I just love multiply.com and your site is wonderful!!!  The video is awesome and your links, too. Thanks for sharing

    Hala Fawzi

    #2099

    Feb 9

    You were not only lurking then? It is a great blog, born with teeth, as we say in Sudan. I love your layout and the links selected. >he's being my precious F1 help>.I love it!

    Christina Ljunggren

    #2111

    Feb 10

    Multiply seems a clear and well structured tool. I immediately tagged it and made myself a member. Can't somehow find the time to play with it just now;-) My summer will be really busy trying everything new from this year's BaW

    Hala Fawzi

    #2103

    Feb 10

    "A grateful" thank you goes to Chrissan, Ibrahim, Horacio, Dennis, Gladys, Sharon, Mary H and Maru for leaving comments to my students on
    our new born class blog: http://tagananet2.blogspot.com They did not wake up yet from the OH! shock.They keeep coming in pairs
    asking, " Teacher, will all these teachers see our future work?". Any additional comments will also be appreciated!
    Thanks
    I love you all,

    Mabel Quiroga

    #2162

    Feb 11

    I also started a blog in motime about some aspects of Argentine culture . My first post is an explanation from Wikipedia about mate (the beverage) because some bawers asked about in the course of Jonathan Finkelstein's presentation.

     

    Clocks and Other Widgets.

    Nelba

    #2100

    Feb 9

    Hi, Teresa. talking about clocks. Please, tell me, the clock that appears in the wiki of BaW07 is it a free software? I am asking because I have had a look at the site and it says it is a free trial for 30 days. Could you tell me if it is free or not because i would like to insert one in my
    blog/wiki.
     

    Hala Fawzi

    #2101

    Feb 10

    Yes , it is a free software and it is very easy to add t to your website, blog or wiki.They have very cute ones for you t to choose from.
    http://www.clocklink.com/

    Teresa d'Eca

    #2120

    Feb 10

    The link below is a mini tutorial created by Webhead Sus Nyrop. It doesn't link to any webpage on clocks.
    http://64.71.48.37/teresadeca/webheads/baw/world-clock.html
    Could you please locate exactly which clock you're referring to in which of our pages (wiki? blog?)? And what site did "you" look at that only allows for a free 30-day trial?

    Nelba

    #2127

    Feb 10
    Hi everybody: I am sorry I am insisting on this but I want to embed a clock in my blog :http://n21810.motime.com/ ( by the way, the ones who have students of this age, I gladly invite their students to post comments) the clock in question is the one that appears in BaW07 wiki:
    http://www.clocklink.com/ I don´t know how to do it because if I follow the steps they ask me for my credit card number. I supposed it is a free tool, but it does not seem to. Does anyone know how to do it for free? or any other clock to embed to blogs?

    Hala Fawzi

    #2134

    Feb 11

    I will help out by copying and pasting from the home page of ClockLink.  Regarding payment, you probably clicked on "Want a Custom Clock for your Company".  Want to design for ClockLink?-->
    Nelba, these are the steps:
    -Click on "Want a Clock on Your Site"
    -Choose from the above tool bar where Newest-Analog-Animal-Animation-Wallpaper, etc
    -View HTML
    A Window may appear with Accept or Agree
    -Choose the clour, size and set your own time zone
    -Copy the code and paste on your blog
    -Say thank you, Hala
    Enjoy!
    P.S. If you don't know where exactly to put the code on "Template", please let us know.

    Moira Hunter

    #2137

    Feb 11

    Clocklink is free and you do not need to give any credit card details at all.  You just select the clock face that you like and colour and size and then copy/paste the html into your blog or wiki. To embed it into the side bar of motime, you go to Template, decide where you want to put it and paste it, save and publish.

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #2142

    Feb 11

    To get the code, go to http://www.clocklink.com/ 

    -Click on: Want a Clock on Your Website?
    -Say yes to the term of agreement
    -Select clock and click on ¨view HTML tag¨
    -If you are copying the tag to an entry in your blog, select the "html" view.
    -If you want it on the side, you will have to add the code to the template. I am using somebody else`s computer and cannot explain that part now :-( just wanted to let you know that you are being read ;-)  

    Sharon Betts

    #2156

    Feb 11

    I don't know if you got this to work or not. There are only a group of clocks that are free - if you are looking for one with a special logo, they will ask you for money. Otherwise, they embed easily in motime. I just did one: http://webheadtools.motime.com/  Be sure you have clicked the source button before pasting the code they give you.

     

     Podcasts

     Carla Raguseo

    #1839

    Feb 5

    I just wanted to show you an activity a devised during the CALL SIG session in my city.
    http://callsig2006.podomatic.com/entry/2006-06-21T08_18_23-07_00
    I tried to integrate Podomatic and Gliffy into a single listening activity. When I actually tried it later with my students I asked them to create their own rooms and describe them to their partners as a follow up. The whole activity was carried out at the computer lab.

    Maru del Campo

    #2181

    Feb 11

    I liked your idea, to place a clock on my blog. I followed the directions given by Dafne (all the way from Spain!) http://www.clocklink.com
    I clicked on the link,then clicked on: Want a clock for your blog? I chose the clock and clicked on HTML code. In the first attempt, the clock did not show so I went and copied the optional second code to embed and pasted it. Once in my blog, when I hit the button "publish" a dialog saying that the code was not closed showed up. All I did was to add </embed> to the end of the string and it worked!
    I was not asked for a credit card number or anything of the sort. Please send me the link to your blog to visit. Thanks for working so hard and for being an example for me to follow.

     

    Wikis

     


    Dafne Gonzalez
    #1810
    Feb 4
    Dear all,
    When you create a new page in the participants wiki, you are not creating a new wiki, only a page in our collaborative space. So, if you change the settings of the wiki, you are affecting the whole wiki, not only your page ;-)

     Johanna Stirling

    #1814

    Feb 4

    A couple of weeks ago (seems like a lifetime!) I asked you whether you thought I should use a website, wiki or blog with a group of Italian tourism students staying in Norwich England. The vote seemed to be for a wiki so ever the obedient one.... Here it is: http://norwichinfo.wikispaces.com/ The project wasn't without tears (literally in one case) and I found Wikispaces sometimes seemed to have a mind of its own. Font sizes just changed for no apparent reason and I've never been able to get rid of = (equals signs) on the homepage. But generally my students enjoyed doing it and were pleased with the result. And so am I! By the way this is an on-going wiki that other groups at the school can update and add to later.  Thanks for the advice - I would have stuck with what I knew which would have been rather boring.I'd definitely have another go.
    Sorry I haven't posted but been busy with that course.

     Dafne Gonzalez

    #1815

    Feb 4

    Wow! Johanna, I love your wiki, so jazzy :-) . I feel like spending a weekend in Norwich! I think you selected the right tool for your project :-) Way to go!

    Cora Chen

    #1821

    Feb 4

    Dear Johanna,
    Your wiki is fantastic! It's very informative and it's perfect for tourists. Congratulations! Thanks for sharing. :-)))

    Johanna Stirling

    #1834

    Feb 5

    I should also clarify that the tears I mentioned (not mine!) were due to my students losing their work a couple of times on Wikispaces (not saving often enough). I managed to find the previous versions they’d written in the history but didn’t know how to revert to them. Can anyone help? And thank you so much for the encouraging comments – I’ll pass them on to the students.

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #1987

    Feb 7

    Once you get to the history page you want to keep, you should find a link that says: "revert to this version" on the top of the page. Click on the link, and that's it.

    Johanna Stirling

    #2004

    Feb 7

    I have no "revert to this version" link. But I have just found something called ‘reset’ – is that the same thing? If it is and I click on it, can I then return to a LATER version ie the one I’ve just come from. I don’t want to mess up what we’ve got now. Thanks very much for your help

    Maru del Campo

    #1823

    Feb 5

    Hello everyone! I finally managed to create a wiki page http://mmvcentro.pbwiki.com  Can someone tell me how to post a link to see it in the baw07participants|all pages site? I started a blog (not finished yet) but somehow I got it in Spanish and I would like to change the view to English, could anyone tell me how to do so?  Our blog pages can be added to the same all pages site? Is it the same procedure? http://mmvcentro.blogspot.com Thanks in advance to all

    Gladys Baya

    #2014

    Feb 8

    Maru, I think I've understood your problem.
    "Show all pages" will only show all pages for the wiki you're at. The wiki page you have created is called "Maru's playground" and is at:
    http://mmvcentro.pbwiki.com (this is your own wiki)  You cannot make it appear under "All pages" in the BAW07 Participants
    wiki because that's another wiki, you see? You can, of course, add a link to your wiki or one of your wiki pages in the SideBar, but if
    everybody did the same... we'd have a terribly long SideBar, I'm afraid! Think of each wiki as a notebook, with pages. You can link pages no matter in which notebook they are, but not "move" them from notebook to notebook... Why did you want to make your page appear in the Participants wiki anyway? If you tell us your exact purpose, we may suggest the best way to go about it...

    Sharon Betts

    #1860

    Feb 5

    My webpage wiki is secure as I use it like a webpage (http://www.sharonbetts.org/site/pmwiki.php). My Techtwaddle wiki (http://techtwaddle.wikispaces.com/) is open for editing by members only, but anyone with a wikispaces account can put a comment in the discussion tabs.  I do have my blogs open for posting by anyone and I would love to have any students leave their comments.
    http://bettsberm.blogspot.com/
    http://sharonbetts.org/sshare/blog.html
    http://sbetts.edublogs.org/

    Maru del Campo

    #1867

    Feb 5

    I did not explain myself right, I already made a wiki page called Maru's first page inside the baw07 page, Moira led me to that. I copied the HTML code and used it, José and Nina have seen it; I discovered that it was done inside the group and I created another one outside the grop which I would like also to share because being a second attempt it is a bit, just a bit better.  If I edit the ones posted by other participants I may not find the part of the code that gives such instructions to include it in both wiki pages already made, do you know how can I do it? If I finish on time doing the activities for week four I will give edit a try.

    Vicky Saumell

    #1906

    Feb 6

    I'm trying to insert a clustr map and some fun text by using code, but nothing happens.  Any help? I don't know how to do it...

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #1910

    Feb 6

    Where are you trying to embed this code? wiki (wikispaces, pbwiki)? blog (blogger, motime)?  Please let us know in order to help you :-)

    Vicky Saumell

    #1976

    Feb 7
    I'm trying to embed it in Wikispaces. Thanks

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #1988

    Feb 7

    I had no problem embedding the code in wikispaces: I went to http://glitter-graphics.com/myspace/text_generator.php  I wrote a title I wanted, then clicked on generate code. I copied the code and then went to wikispaces, clicked on "edit page", then clicked on the icon that looks like a tv ;-) Copied the code there, Clicked on Save, and I had the title on my wiki :-) Hope this helps!

     

    Protopage, Yahoo! Pipes


    Nelba
    #1798
    Feb 4
    Super tool! I have an e-group of students of English. Can they leave their opinions? I wanted to leave a comment in your wiki but I could not. Why?

     Kagan Sutcu

    #1827

    Feb 5

    This is my school's online newspaper. Check it out: http://www.protopage.com/pigeonpost
    One of my colleagues and a group of students are running it. I hope you like it.

    Sharon Betts

    #2172

    Feb 11

    I finally got to some emails I had missed and I really like this Protopage newspaper. I am going to show it to some of my teachers.

     Vicky Saumell

    #1852

    Feb 5

    When I saw the potential of Protopage I could not wait to start building my own!  I made two: one for personal use at http://www.protopage.com/vickysaumell and another for the school where I work at http://www.protopage.com/isfaingles
    You are invited to have a look and leave your comments.  BTW, I have been visiting all your wikis and blogs and everything else posted and I am amazed at the creativity shown. What an inspiration!

    Sharon Betts #1864

    Feb 5

    I am so pleased that you folks are jumping in with Protopage. It (and others like it) really are very useful for organization.

    Gladys Baya #2021

    Feb 8

    Kagan, My "hard luck"! Having looked at how your schools is using Protopage, now I feel tempted to start one for my own school! Oh, dear, another task to try one day... should learn not to read old digests, I guess!

    Gladys Baya

    #2015

    Feb 8

    This morning I read Yahoo! is launching Yahoo! Pipes (beta). I had a look but couldn't make head or tail of it.. Perhaps one of you
    familiar with startpages could have a look at the link and tell me if Pipes is similar to Protopage and the other startpages mentioned here?
    http://pipes.yahoo.com/ and here's what I read about this product: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Techcrunch/~3/87991940/
    If I were to start exploring one of these at some moment before BAW-08... which one would you say makes an easier starting point?

    Sharon Betts

    #2018

    Feb 8

    I believe that Yahoo Pipes is a very techie application for combining your RSS feeds into different configurations. If you are interested
    in using a personal / class portal, I would suggest: Netvibes Protopage PageFlakes here is a link to 54 of them:
    http://3spots.blogspot.com/2006/03/ajax-or-flash-startpages-or-homepages.html

    Christina Ljunggren

    #2027

    Feb 8

    Hi Gladys, I tried to have a look at Yahoo!Pipes and got the message "Our pipes are clogged, we're calling the plumber" A reason for me to
    start laughing instead of being irritated;-) Smart idea, don't you think?

     

    Feeling Overwhelmed

     Angeles Berman

    #1770

    Feb 4

    During this week, I felt a little bit overwhelmed, because of work and no time for being at the computer as much as i want.  But, i can see that I have take advantage of this course during this week. I have opened a new site at multiply.com and working on it, http://angelesb.multiply.com/  I like multiply design and I like you can upload music there.It has a blog and a video box, too.  I also started trying to design a professional wiki to share with my colleagues (it's on paper in this moment) and I've attended two conferences, something that I specially like is that my first experience at Alado, it was difficult for me to follow the chat and listening at the same time. But this time, it was much easier and I can attend chat and listening :D  Graham stanley's talk was wonderful and I`ll try podcasting so having plans for the next week.

    Kagan Sutcu

    #1830

    Feb 5

    Hi Angeles, Great blog especially considering I have hard time thinking about how am I gonna put music on my blog?

     Rafieh

    #1816

    Feb 4

      I'm in the same boat, Maru! I felt I was too slow but after reading your brave words now I feel I wasn't the only one feeling that way. I'm trying to catch up but the problem is I can't manage to cross more things off of my 'to-do' list for this course than I add to it each week. I feel very grateful for all these wonderful tools and information we get but I just wish I could participate actively. I'm well behind the other course I'm doing as well (teaching with powerpoint) but as I mentioned there, the sooner you get behind, the more time you have to catch up!!

     Moira Hunter

    #1833

    Feb 5

    I don't look at my "to do list" any more, in fact I don't write one as I would get too depressed with all the things I haven't done and the little I have done!! I now look at it a different way - I just look at the little I have done in a day and think "Wow, you did that? Well done!!" And believe me, sometimes my achievement is just to sit down and watch a film on the television!!! There's no rush here, and no competition ;-)) There's no exam at the end either, thank goodness ;-) Some people have prior knowledge so it's normal that they appear faster. In fact, these very people are a great resource and can help others in this group. Just make sure they are on your Yahoo and Skype contact lists ;-)  Maru has taken her time, a huge handful of patience and perseverence and set up her wiki page, got into Tapped In, participated in a skypecast, been in Alado ..... (have I forgotten something Maru?) and all of that in one day -yesterday!!!  We'll all get there - we have time now and after the workshop :-)

    Rafieh Novotny

    #1856

    Feb 5

    Thank you for your encouraging message. I love your idea of looking at the little things done and praising ourselves. It is such a healthy and positive attitude and reminds me of this beautiful quote; The real voyage of discovery consists, not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new eyes.

    Moira Hunter

    #1880

    Feb 6

    This is a lovely quote and I've written it on my whiteboard which is opposite me in my office so that I am always reminded of it. Do you know who it's from?

    Rafieh Novotny

    #1921

    Feb 6

    It is from Marcel Proust (French novelist). I have those kind of quotes on the white board as well. Some of our adult students love reading them. As a minimum it can improve their reading skills and vocabulary!

    Sharon Betts

    #1862

    Feb 5

    I too am finding it difficult to even test all these great tools. I have decided to think of BAW as a lifetime class - something that will keep on giving.

    Moira Hunter

    #1883

    Feb 6

    You're spot on Sharon, it really is a lifetime class to continue well beyond the 25 February :-)
    So everybody, do not worry if you cannot or do not want to try all the tools now. This is just a 'taster' of what there is in order to have a 'feel' of what you could do with your own learners. The same applies for the weekly readings. You don't have to read them all.  Just try to read one or two (of your choice) for each week now.

    Johanna Stirling

    #1888

    Feb 6

    I loved your quote about new eyes being more important than new places in your reply to Moira. It reminded me of a wonderful book by Alain de Botton called The Art of Travel. Do you know it? It’s all about the philosophy of travel – why we travel and how to travel well (psychologically and emotionally). The last chapter is about a chap who decided to be a tourist in his own bedroom so he spent 6 months travelling around his room really looking at things closely and finding out the history of them. (Such delicious eccentricity!) And that in turn reminded me of what several of the moderators have said on this course. Just choose a few tools and explore those in depth. But the problem with that philosophy is that I’m loving the world tour of Web 2.0 and finding new things all the time. It seems to me that we can glance at these new tools on the ‘tour’ and then retrace our steps to explore our favourites in detail after it has finished. At that stage we can seriously consider how the technology can enhance learning, rather than just being ‘wow’ But for now I’m happy with being wowed!

    Rafieh Novotny

    #1925

    Feb 6

    As Moira said, Let's all wow together. I totally agree with you and definitely I will have to retrace our route after the end of this course. However, even taking a glance is very joyful and I love it.  I haven't read `The Art of Travel' but it sounds very interesting. I will try to get the book soon. Thanks for sharing.

    Nelba

    #1909

    Feb 6

    Sharon: I cannot also do everything - although I try to do as much as I can-: readings, explore or the tools, finish my blog, start my wiki, read the mails, participate in the forum! BaW07 is very rich in material and participants (including moderators, co-moderators, lecturers...sorry if I miss anybody to mention) But let's keep in touch and we can go on exploring and sharing experiences.

     

     

    Miscellaneous

     Sarah Jones

    #1835

    Feb 5

    Just a quick reply concerning my introduction. I`m based in Southern Germany, teach English as a second language to business professionals, companies and Universities. I also teach a variety of clients online and try to complement courses with e-learning tools and integrate these into syllabuses. I have been looking for user-friendly programs, applications, tools and e-learning platforms and environments to extend the opportunities available to my clients both online and offline.  As soon as I have more time to explore this group, I will be eager to start with contributions and ready for a bigger commitment!.) My weekend has been tied up with marking exam papers and today with seminars and online teaching and more correcting!!!! Please bear with me and thanks to all for a lively, thorough, friendly and supportive environment.:)
    Paula Ferreira
    #1804
    Feb 4
    Hi, everyone.  Here is a page on online learning and some links related to the different skills. Hope to hear your comments.
    ESL-PRO.com  Advertisement - February 2007

     Teresa Almeida d'Eca

    #1838

    Feb 5

      Guess what?! I prefer the Database entry for registrations to live sessions, because it helps my "forgetful neurones" much more than a poll. ;-)

     Moira Hunter

    #1841

    Feb 5

    I prefer to see replies no matter where, so for the next one I'll use the Database to see if it's more successful ;-))))

     Dennis Oliver

    #1976

    Feb 7

    Today is Carla Arena's birthday, and I've created a simple blog so that we can have all our good wishes for Carla in one place. The blog is here: http://www.many-years.blogspot.com/   

     Cheryl Oakes

    #1994

    Feb 7

    When sending long, really long urls you can use http://www.tinyurl.com.  Paste the URL into the blank and it generates a tiny URL for you to
    use in its place. http://baw07.pbwiki.com/week3threads to http://tinyurl.com/2yl89v

    Hala Fawzi

    #1890

    Feb 6

    The reason for my not posting lately was because I was preparing my first blended Yahoo Group for my students:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tagananet/  I will share the experience with you later today.

    Susan Wood

    #2024

    Feb 8

    Hala, Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a "blended" yahoo group? What is being blended? The front page looks great... I just popped over there and was very tempted to join so that I could peak inside--I'd love to see what you are sharing with students and how they are participating! Is there any way that we can have a look inside? Looking forward to hearing more about your experience with this!

    Moira Hunter

    #2031

    Feb 8

    One of my learners sent this to me a long time ago: I kept it and love it still! It revitalises you, nicht wahr Dennis?
    http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-7836547273687836884

    Christina Ljunggren

    #2035

    Feb 8

    Moira, I laughed 'til my tummy ached.....or was it from dancing....rotfl Swing it!

    Vera Bobkova

    #2038

    Feb 8

    Sharon, I've listened to your recording and even left a comment, but could you tell me, please, how you make your camera work like a webcam? I am only planning to buy a webcam, but I have a wonderful camera!

    Sharon Betts

    #2047

    Feb 8

    I have a small video camera that will work as a webcam when it is connected to my computer through the USB port. Probably a function of
    the camera - It is a "no-name" unit.

    Hala Fawzi

    #1891

    Feb 6

    See how baw moderators catch up with emails so fast? I have been reading all the emails, listening to voice emails and checking recommended links, adding comments on every beautiful new born baby in baw2007.  I am now a moderator who feels left behind. I will show you how moderators catch up with everything so quickly in seconds!

    Thank you Dafninha, for being with me at that moment( at 2:00 a.m.) when had no one beside me, except my husband's snoring!!

    Thank you Corainha for not forgetting to thank me with other moderators when the curtains were down for your great week show.  I deserve it( joking )
    Rafieh, I love your quote. I wonder whether , in webheads community, we do both; seeking new landscapes and having new eyes everyday from all over the globe to see into your work and help you out to see it from different angles
    Sharon, I agree with you that baw is an ongoing-non-stop warm life time class . thanks for reminding me of my protopage account. Maybe I should go back and use it for organizing my current amazing chaos. Yours looks great. Expect my students too!

    Vicky, I like your protopages.

    Jennifer , I loved your spontaneously springdoo email.

    Maru, I thought the content can not be changed. Changing the language in a blogger, means the language blogger.com use, not the content. You need to translate and post again.(not quite sure, but this I what I think!)

     Johanna,your wiki looks wonderful.

    Jennifer( two posts ), Maru ( on the wiki, no comments allowed on the blog) Sarah, thank you for the new family term. I wish you luck. The day will definitely turn to be a success, if you are going to be in charge of coordination!:-))).We will be waiting for the pictures.

    Liliana, I left you a comment.Congratulations!

    Carla, I left you a comment of the very creative lesson using both Gliffy and podmatic!

    Cherylinha , my dear friend, tying some private chains from one webhead to another, through sharing private lives and comments is what makes this fabulous community to stand still fabulously! I wanted to tell you ..who felt that she was left behind : save all these messages on a special folder, because you will copy and paste them in baw2008 for the new bawers. You will then be a great webhead that will help welcoming newcomers.

    Sharon Betts

    #2093

    Feb 9

    When you are logged in to buzzvote - click on you name to see your polls. At the bottom of the screen is a link for Tools. There you will
    find how to embed the poll. Thanks for the note.

    Moira Hunter #2109

    Feb 10

    As we discover all these tools and think more about our own teaching situation, our own special desires and needs to integrate technology, our own learners' needs and our own 'comfort-zone', I'd like to draw your attention to one of the readings for Week 4
    "E-Conferencing for Instruction : What Works?"
    http://www.educause.edu/ir/library/pdf/eqm0646.pdf
    Discussions are going on in blogs, wikis, voice tools and I'd like to invite you to drop a line in the forum http://www.miumu.com/phpbb/baw07.html Looking forward to reading them there :-)

    Teresa d'Eca

    #2122

    Feb 10

    I'm very sorry for my disappearance of late, but too many hours at school and a major article to accompany a presentation I'll be making with two other colleagues at a School of Education has been making me crazier than usual. (My students lovingly call me the "crazy and radical teacher", isn't that right, DennisO?) It seems that the final version is done and I've had an enthusiastic ok from my husband. :-) Only one last proofread tomorrow!
    One of the first things I did for BaW07 this afternoon, after Andy Pincon's great session, was to bring the wiki Sidebar back to normal (the first 15 links were in too big a font). I'm no pro, as Daf, so it took me a few attempts. But I did it! :-)  And then I created a page with the chatlog for Sarah Lilburn's presentation. You may remember or not (so many things have been going on and we can only take so much!!!) that on Feb 2 Moira sent out Ryan Detwiler's invitation to BaWers. He's moderating the EVO Video group and Sarah, who creates a daily Internet video for people who want to learn English, was their guest. Do read the log. It's worthwhile.  http://baw07.pbwiki.com/ti-videogroup

    Cora Chen

    #2132

    Feb 11

    I'm sure your article will be another successful work of yours! Thank you so much for sharing the page of Sarah Lilburn's presentation. I book-
    marked the link to her Daily English show. I'll take a closer look at it when I have more time. I completely missed the email about Ryan Detwiler's invitation to BaWers some time ago.

    Susan Wood

    #2153

    Feb 11

    thank you for sending the link to Sarah Lilburn's presentation! Like Cora, I missed the email about Ryan Detwiler's invitation and will be
    looking forward to listening to these resources when the dust settles. To be honest, right now I'm in survival mode and I have this mental
    image of myself as an archeologist (in about three weeks time), on my hands and knees with a soft paintbrush, sifting through the messages, finding treasures and trying to reconstruct the threads of life that flew through here!)...

    Teresa d'Eca

    #2159

    Feb 11

    I love the image of the archeologist. :-) I have also been in survival mode this past week. But then, one of the good things about BaW is that we keep everything online to sift through, like fine sand (!), at our own availability, will and pleasure.  That's when those threads pages will come in very handy, Gladys! And I bet that Daf and I won't be the only ones using them. I prefer go through them than through pages of unread messages (such as most this week). All of the work is neatly prepared and organized. :-)

    S. Shirkhani

    #2106

    Feb 10

    I searched through some search engines as the activity of the week. I believe that yahoo, google, and altavista, which I have used many many times, are highly suitable for seaching articles and books in different field, including ours.

    Sharon Betts

    #2175

    Feb 11

    We have been discussing tags and their use - I would like to start a discussion on using RSS feeds.
    RSS - Real simple syndication--Blogged about it in my Webhead Tools Blog at http://webheadtools.motime.com/
    If you don't want to read the entire idea, but wish to see an example: Here is an example from Protopage:
    http://protopage.com/sharonbetts#Shared_Things/BAW07

     

    Threads

     

    Sasha Sirk

    #1903

    Feb 6
    Concerning the threading part - can you threaders please tell me where to start once week 5 starts? Are there any tutorials or step by step
    instructions to consult before I start firing my (no) dumb questions at you? I understand I have to group the week's messages according to their contents (leaving out those which do not contribute to the development of the thread?) and enter this into our wiki. Does it make sense if I do the grouping part in the MS Word and continue with copying&pasting into the wiki?
     

    Hala Fawzi

    #1920

    Feb 6

    About the threads, I recommend you to go over the threads for the past weeks, see how they grouped the messages or topics, how the photos are arranged besides each webhead,etc.That will be very helpful.You will start with the message after the last one which has been threaded by week 4 threader. I think grouping it first using is a good idea.Then you will be left with the copy and paste on the wiki using the classical editor.
    See? No problem at all!! Don't worry. Be happy!!  I love the song!

     Gladys Baya

    #1924

    Feb 6

    White and Arndt (discussing process writing) say a written text is never actually finished, there just comes a time when you feel ready
    to abandon it... ;-)  Well, that's exactly how I feel right now about: http://baw07.pbwiki.com/week3threads  Some sections might be relocated, but I've worked on it like mad for nine days, so I hope it's of use to some one!  The table of contents is my pride... and I've learned a lot about the different topics discussed, Pb wiki point-and-click editor and HTML!  At a more personal level, I've also learned to play behind the curtains, something quite unnatural to me as I'm the kind of person who usually speaks up and stands out in crowds... even when I mean not to! :-P
    So I call it a week, and if I've omitted something, or mixed somebody's name with a message that wasn't theirs.. just let me know!  One final word: if you want to edit the page, PLS USE THE POINT-AND-CLICK EDITOR ON THIS PAGE... we've noticed some conflict when you shift between this one and Classic style... Anyway, we can always go back to the previous version in two clicks, so don't be afraid of ruining anything!
    My contribution to BAW-07 is thus "handed in" to the community... Enjoy!

    Nina Liakos

    #1930

    Feb 6

    Only one who has done--or is doing--weekly threads can understand how proud and happy you must feel right now!  Kudos and many thanks to you for your support as I toil over Week 4 threads.  Thanks also to Daf for her suggestions.

    Gladys Baya

    #

    Feb 6

    At a more personal level, I've also learned to play behind the curtains, something quite unnatural to me as I'm the kind of person who usually speaks up and stands out in crowds... even when I mean not

    Hala Fawzi

    #1934

    Feb 6

    You can add one more,my dear Gladys: Patience! Great organized threads! Awesome!

    Berta Leiva

    #1943

    Feb 6

    Wow, Gladys, congratulations, great job. Lots of learning involved, no doubt about it and excellent resource to all participants at the moment and for many more months to come, if not years. I wonder how many hours it took you to put the threads together. It is not to discourage anyone in the future but to have an idea of the time spent on task. I guess it was much difficult in past years, wasn´t dreamweaver used? Each year participants grow in numbers and interests, and messages abound and create a variety of rich input from many sources in this so very active special community.
    I tried to get to the "edit" section of the page but the "baw" password did not work (it does in the participants´page, but not in the threads)
    Excellent, Gladys, as always. Thanks a zillion. Kat and Cheryl, you also did a great job in weeks 1 and 2. It is also appreciated.

    Cheryl Oakes

    #1945

    Feb 6

    Gladys, I felt the same way with the threads, after spending a couple hours a day, like 4, I needed to publish and then continue working on
    it. I did get comments from some Webheads, thank you, telling me I had the wrong photo. But, all things can be fixed. With Daf's help the
    page looks spiffy. You did not abandon your threads, you just gave them a gentle nudge and they are off on their own.

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #1946

    Feb 6

    I agree on the excellent job done by Gladys, Cheryl (week 2) and Kat (week 1) who created the template forthe threads wiki pages :-)
    This is a lot of work but worth the effort. I started the tradition of threads back in 2003 when I co-moderated 2 of the weeks in the Webhheads in Action EVO session.
    These are the first threads pages ever in the EVO sessions:
    Week 1: http://www.geocities.com/dygonza/wia1/wia-w1-intro.html
    week 5: http://dygonza.esmartweb.com/evonline2003/week5/w5p1.htm
    week 6: http://dygonza.esmartweb.com/evonline2003/week6/w6p2.htm
    Then, in 2004 when we started the BaW sessions, we created this page for the threads:
    http://www.geocities.com/bawebhead/threads.html
    In 2005, these pages started to be a collaborative work:
    http://80.60.224.77/dyg/baw-05/content/weeklythreads.html
    2006: http://dafnegonzalez.com/baw-06/content/weeklythreads.html
    And now in 2007, we decided to use a wiki instead of a web site for the session. I frequently go back to these pages to remember participants, topics discussed, tools explored, and to think of past days :-) Enjoy the historical journey ;-)

    Cora Chen

    #1951

    Feb 6

    Many thanks again for your hard work! The Week 3 threads look fantastic and very organized! I also wished that you had had the chance to take the leading role on stage during Week 3! I feel very lucky to have your full support. Congratulations again on your own two successful online sessions "Learning with Computers" and "B4B"!

    Gladys Baya

    #2007

    Feb 7

    Thanks, Cora, it was exhausting, and I honestly kept wondering how many people would ever look at them, if any.. but I hope it's contributed to
    BAW's greatness somehow...

    Moira Hunter

    #1954

    Feb 6

    Yes, before it was Dreamweaver and I for one certainly pulled out my hair doing the threads last year with Dreamweaver - much prefer a wiki :-)
    The threads are indeed excellent and a great model for all of us. Well done Gladys for Week 3 !!!!!!!!!
    Only the moderating team can change the main wiki. The participants can edit the Participants wiki with the password baw. I'm sure if you let Gladys know what has to be changed, it will be done in a jiffy!

    Dennis Newson

    #1960

    Feb 6

    Gladys, re White and Arndt's comment on never really finishing a text..."There just comes a time when you are ready to abandon it." There comes a point when I say: "I just want to get it out of the house." A brilliant job on the threads. Congratulations.
    Where would I have to go to insert my photo to replace the "No photo yet" next to the couple of totally unforgettable sentences that I uttered and
    have passed into threaddom history?

    Nina Lyulkun

    #1968

    Feb 7

    I've shared a document with you called "Weekly threads 3 "abandoned" ;-)": http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=djz92xw_15hfhfqd It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs & Spreadsheets. To open this document, just click the link above. --- Dear friends, I am mostly lurking this week - my classes started, and I don't have enough time to read all the messages. Though, it was a
    couple of minutes today to get to the list, and I was impressed immensely with the Week 3 Threads!!! I'd like to express my gratitude to Gladys for the brilliant job she has done with Week 3 Threads. I do too know what this work worth. I am very much thankful for the good lesson and wonderful sample of making these threads. Now, I definitely know what I should do to get my page improved. Thank you, Gladys, very much, you are special!!! Lots of love, Nina Lyulkun --- Note: please sign in to this document with the same email address I
    used to invite you. If you want to use a different email address, just reply to this message and let me know.

    Gladys Baya

    #2008

    Feb 7

    How can I shout ****THANKS A MILLION** here?  Maybe it's exhaustion, ;-) but believe me I was moved to tears when I
    realised so many of you had taken the trouble to open the page and post some feedback. I wanted to reply to some questions there, but didn't get an invitation, so I couldn't .- (
    Here go my answers then:
    Berta: it took me about 2 hours a day once I found MY way to go about it (by Wednesday, I'd say), plus about 7 hours I "wasted" making sense
    of HTML and cleaning the dirty code I had created by clicking and unclicking in my ignorance... the Point-and-click editor really made it much easier (I found this option in our group wiki only as from Wednesday). In the days of webpages and Dreamweaver, I simply couldn't
    have done it!
    Daf: knowing that at least you and Tere will ever go back to these pages makes the whole thing definitely purposeful! ;-)
    Dennis Denos: to get your photo added to the threads, just add your photo to the Participants Gallery: http://baw07participants.pbwiki.com/FrontPage and let me know via email when it's done!
    BAW Participants cannot edit the weekly thread page because it's on a different wiki. My mistake in suggesting you might! Just email me to gladysbaya@... and let me know what you'd like to have modified...
    Now I fel sorry I never thanked all those who have created weekly threads in the past... Thread creators: my admiration and gratitude
    for you! It was just EVO goes so fast, I guess I needed to go through the experience myself before I could pause to "pay you tribute"!
    BAW rules!

    Cheryl Oakes

    #1995

    Feb 7

    Nina Lyulkun, what a creative and clever way to show a thread of threads! I really enjoyed your document. Thanks for sharing.

    Cheryl Oakes

    #1992

    Feb 7

    Yahoo to the thread ladies!

    Susan Wood

    #2022

    Feb 8

    Thank you for doing the threads for week three -- I can guarantee that Daf and Teresa won't be the only ones coming back to them in the future!!!! And yes -- looking at al l the work you have done and the attractive and useful results makes me ashamed too that I haven't taken the time to thank Kat and Cheryl for the wonderful threads they created for weeks 1 and 2... Thank you all!!!

     

     

     

     Week 4 Live Sessions

     

    Jonathan Finkelstein at LearningTimes/Elluminate

     Moira Hunter #1842

    Feb 5

    Thank you Jonathan for a very lively, interesting and interactive online session. It was excellent and thoroughly appreciated and enjoyed by all present. And above all, it opened our minds to how this environment can be used in our own teaching.
    I will be posting to our blog soon where you are all warmly invited to leave your first impressions after this event. It is always really interesting for the speaker themselves to read these comments too!! The recording will be available in a few hours :-) Thank you again Jonathan for your online warmth and presence and thank you all who attended :-)

     Moira Hunter

    #1846

    Feb 5

    The recording of today's session is now available.
    http://home.learningtimes.net/learningtimes?go=1486984
    A session page is in the process of being created in our wiki.
    You are cordially invited to 'rush' to the blog and leave your first impressions after this hands-on session!
    http://baw07.motime.com/
    Looking forward to reading the posts :-))

     

    Geoff  Kaye at DiscoverE

    Leanne MacKenzie

    #1871

    Feb 5

    I've rushed right over to RSVP, then realized that I will probably only make the Saturday presentation, NOT the Tuesday (due to time differences). So please forgive my bungling this simple task <blushing>. BTW, when I tried to install the DiscoverE software, it wouldn't work with my Netscape, but I had perfect success with IE. Has anyone else had this problem? What about Firefox?

    Moira Hunter

    #1885

    Feb 6

    Dearest Leanne, Thank you for rushing!!!!!! That's the main thing :-))  BTW, apparently blushing is good for the skin!  I don't know about Netscape so can't answer there but I have used both IE and Firefox and had no problems. It does seem that some people are having problems with Firefox but you must run the programme when asked and not download, and of course, Firefox deals with downloads differently (go to Firefox, tools and downloads and you see the list and there you can open them if required). I wonder whether that helps?

    Moira Hunter

    #1899

    Feb 6

    It appears some people are having problems accessing DiscoverE with Firefox. I access this virtual classroom with Firefox regularly and have no problems.  However, to avoid any problems on the day, I advise that if you are one of these people mentioned above, just use Internet Explorer and you will have no problems :-))  Please remember to add Mabel Quiroga and Christina Ljunggren (alias Chrissan)
    and myself to your YM and Skype contact lists.  Please complete the Database in the Yahoo Group too, so Geoff can have an idea of the size of his audience. Looking forward to seeing you all there :-)

    Eleanor

    #1913

    Feb 6

    I am trying to download and install the program for the lecture that is due to take place in 30 minutes - but the link is dead. Any suggestions?

    Moira Hunter

    #1928

    Feb 6

    Hello Eleanor, I'm sorry but by the time I received this email, I was already in the room welcoming the participants and helping people through YM and Skype.  You have not added me to your contact lists. Have you added Chrissan and Mabel? If not, please do so as this is vital. The link is corrrect and working http://www.compued.com.au/discovere/webheads/ Did you follow the instructions in the wiki in Week 4 and run the programme, not install it?  Let me know how you get on and hopefully you will be there for Geoff's second session on Saturday :-)

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #1915

    Feb 6

     

    #1918

    I had to click three times on the page to get it to open. My problem started later. I have been for almost an hour trying to access the room with no success :-(  I have installed, unistalled the application, rebooted, and nothing. So, here I am knowing that the session is going on now (I can even see the names of the people who are attending, but that's about it) :-(

     

    Well, the session is not over yet, but I took a screenshot of my ordeal trying to get there:
    http://baw07.pbwiki.com/f/tn_discovere.jpg
    Daf col (crying out loud)

    Teresa d'Eca

    #1919

    Feb 6

    Dear Daf, And here's one of us crying with you not making it!

    http://64.71.48.37/teresadeca/webheads/baw07/images/6feb07discoverepres10.jpg

    Moira Hunter

    #1923

    Feb 6

    Daf, I love it!!!  You got the tears - I'll look at my screenshots when my eyes are a bit more open ;-) I took quite a few between the tears and the laughter :-))  And normally millions of screenshots from weeping participants inside the room are coming too!!  The session pages may be late this week everybody as we have 5 planned live sessions, but everyone is helping with the screenshots and Mabel is our Session Page Queen!
    Moira... going to put her pyjamas on as Geoff goes to work ;-)

    Hala Fawzi

    #1916

    Feb 6

    Hi Dafne, You are not alone!  I thought I am the only one who couldn't join.The front page of the room is here on my screen, but everything is frozen. Nothing opens. I thought it was my browser,so I tried installing Mozilla, which seems have nothing to do with it at all,but when one is so frustrated he would try everything! It took me almost an hour to figure out it won't work. I thought I was dumped!

    Moira Hunter

    #1931

    Feb 6

    Dearest Hala,  After tellng people to stick to me, who did you stick to tonight? It wasn't me, so maybe Chrissan or Mabel? I'll send my cyberspies out to see who .... and if the reply is negative, we the Week 4 Sailing team, will send you a cyber slapped wrist ;-)))
    Huge Hugs to the lady who nobody will 'dump' as she cheers us up too much !!

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #1926

    Feb 6

    I was very frustrated for not being able to attend today's session, and to top it all, I was also having problems to connect to the Elluminate room at LT.  I had the feeling the problem was due to IE7. But I am not a techie and did not know what to do. So, I sent the Elluminate support team a message, and I have just received the reply below, and I follow the instructions for Elluminate and for Discover-e, and yesssss, the problem was solved. Now, I will be able to sleep peacefully ;-)  We should never give up!

    REad message below:
    Hi Dafne,
    You are experiencing an issue with Internet Explorer 7's (IE7) due to its new security setup we recommend that all participants and moderators connecting using Internet Explorer 7 make the following modifications to their Internet Explorer set-up. Two symptoms that users who do not make these changes may see are:
    -difficulty playing flash files (.swf) uploaded to the multimedia library (a white or blank multimedia window appears instead)
    -when logging into sessions, appearing as Your Name 1 in the participant area of the interface even though only logged in one time.
    First, add Elluminate.com and localhost as a trusted websites.
    Step 1. Access the Tools-->Internet options menu in IE7.
    Step 2. Select the security tab of the Internet Options, click "Trusted sites", then open the Sites dialogue.
    Step 3. Add "*.elluminate.com" (the * makes all sub domains of elluminate.com trusted.) and "http://localhost" as a trusted website. Make sure the checkmark for "Require server verification (https:) for all sites in this zone is not" checked. This change will allow flash files (.swf) uploaded to the Elluminate Live! multimedia library to play properly.

    Secondly, change the Internet Security settings to automatically prompt for file download.
    Step 4. Close the Trusted Sites dialog and open the "Custom Level" button back in the Internet options security tab. Set "Automatic prompting for file downloads" to Enabled. This will allow you to properly launch meetings and your name will be properly displayed in the Participants area within Elluminate Live!
    Maria, Elluminate Technical Support

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #1932

    Feb 6

    I am sure Hala can use these technical suggestions to solve her problem, too :-)

    Hala Fawzi

    #1933

    Feb 6

    Thanks Dafne, I did! It took me only minutes.What a simple clear instructions to follow!  Now I can access the room.

    Moira Hunter

    #1927

    Feb 6

    As Geoff goes to work in Australia and I go to bed in France, I'd like to thank Geoff for a really good and interesting session! A lot of questions were asked and answered in the session. We all had the chance to really interact with the tools. Some in the room had problems, some
    didn't - all the ingredients for a great learning session.  There were other problems too but when aren't there when you are in this
    real-time virtual class environment and especially when you use it fully and not just as a 'dead' powerpoint display? Daf and I shed Yahoo Messenger tears as she couldn't get in no matter what we did and I interrupted Geoff to give the newsflash that there would be no Queen Daf today, at which point, after an appropriate prompt, everybody mourned her absence with huge crying emoticoms!!!!  What better way to learn where to find them and how they look?
    Could those who took screenshots please be so kind and send me your best ones (off list) so that we can put them on the Sessions Page? Thanks :-))
    Being in these rooms is not like being online asynchronous - it's live and in real-time with all the technical problems that can possibly happen! And is sometimes a bit like driving around the Arc de Triomphe - the first time it's scary, once you're used to it, you're not.
    Thanks Geoff for a wonderful session. Everybody enjoyed it and I would recommend those who couldn't be there today to mark their calendars for Saturday 10 February at 01.00 GMT.
    I will be putting a post in the blog for your comments shortly :-)

    Moira Hunter

    #1984

    Feb 7

    For those who were not able to be present for Geoff Kaye, please be patient for the recording - it's coming all the way from Australia ;-))  I have posted to our blog on Geoff Kaye's great event and would like to invite you to 'run' there and leave a comment!! What were your impressions? How did you feel in the class? How do you think your learners would feel?  Of course, this is especially for those who were able to be there and are not waiting for the recording. I'll link the blog and Mabel will add it to the Sessions page as soon as it is in our impatient,sticky hands for you all to view :-)
    Please REMEMBER, that if you didn't open an account with motime (free of course), you must write your name at the end of your comment manually, otherwise you become 'anonymous' :-)
    A huge thanks to those who have already rushed there and left their thoughts following Jonathan Finkelstein's session. These Guest Speakers are with us because they want to be and not because they are being paid because they aren't :-) So all comments and feedback are really, really highly appreciated as they read the blog too :-))

    Cheryl Oakes

    #1992

    Feb 7

    Many times as we try out new tools, we feel like any problem is a reflection of our not understanding how this new tool works. But Daf, great example, some of the issues are with the tools. Reach out, ask questions and in time your answers will be found and changes will be made in the tools.

    Moira Hunter

    #2113

    Feb 10

    Thank you Geoff for being with us at 01.00 GMT for a second time in this week!!!  We had lots of fun and learnt a lot about the different features and things we can do with our learners. We interacted a lot with the whiteboard which was extremely useful as I for one really need a good workable whiteboard in the virtual classroom. Thank you again!

     

     

    Jane Bozarth at Learning Times/Elluminate

     Moira Hunter

    #2045

    Feb 8

     I'd like to really thank Jane for coming today to be with us. Jane is not a part of this online community (yet ...) and kindly accepted my invitation to be a Guest Speaker in this Week of Voices. And what a voice and online presence she has!  We certainly had to hold onto our 'virtual hats' for 60 minutes of collaborative learning! I did warn you all in the wiki about Week 4 ;-)  I think that everybody left the session with thoughts, ideas and of course questions .... a great event and thank you, Jane!
    For those who were able to be present, please go to the blog and leave those thoughts and comments - the post is there! I am waiting for the recording from Learning Times and will put the link there as soon as I have it for those who couldn't be there today.

     Jane Bozarth

    #2051

    Feb 8

    What a good time today in our live session via Elluminate! Many thanks to those who got up at dawn to be there... and many thanks for inviting
    me.  While today's session was more about using the product-specific tools, especially the whiteboard, I am offering the more traditional
    "Shoestring" program FREE next Tuesday at 1 pm New York time (I will never understand "time zone maths", but it's 2 hours later than today's
    session was...) . This will cover basics of building e-learning solutions with very little, or no, budget.
    Register
    <https://insync.webex.com/mw0304l/mywebex/personalroom/personalroom.do?siteurl=insync&AT=meet&username=PublicTrainingRoom> here
    (this is offered via InSync Training <http://www.insynctraining.com/> and will use the WebEx virtual classroom tool. Be sure to download and
    tech check prior to session time. See 'training center--set up--training manager when you register.) I hope to see you then-- and thanks again, Webheads!

     Laura

    #2053

    Feb 8

    I really enjoyed the Elluminate session. I think you did a great job involving everyone in the lesson but but I was a little overwhelmed with all of the tools. Will there be any other opportunity for us to attend a session using Elluminate?

    Jane Bozarth

    #2054

    Feb 8

    Moira and the other community leaders can answer that better than I. I was offered a choice of tools for the session, and I chose Elluminate. Many of the virtual classroom products share a number of the features you saw today (chat, whiteboard, polling, a few emoticons, etc.) I especially like Elluminate's object-oriented whiteboard-- not all products have that. I would bet that elluminate offers free demos on their site.

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #2055

    Feb 8

    Jonathan kindly set up the Elluminate Webheads room at LT for Webheads. Once you finish this session, and join Webheads in Action, you will be able to use this room. We frequently use it for PD events and for sessions with our students.  When we started using this room, we gathered there with other webheads to explore the different features.  In other words, you will have many opportunities to play around with Elluminate. There is always a webhead ready to join you in the F.U.N :-) 

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #2056

    Feb 8

    Thanks a lot for the great session today. I will try to make it on monday, provided I can download the application to the borrowed computer I will be using in Spain. Thanks for the invite to this session!     

    Mabel Quiroga

    #2068

    Feb 9

    Thank you very much for the wonderful session today. Now when I saw your offer for this new session I thought Well, here's a trainer who can read the minds of the people in the audience:) I was really looking forward to hearing more about the shoestring dimension to elearning. I have already registered. So we'll meet again next Tuesday! Wonderful!

    Moira Hunter

    #2090

    Feb 9

    You can consult the recording of Jane Bozarth's session on our blog here
    http://baw07.motime.com/

    Please leave your comments as these are highly appreciated :-)

     

     Andrew Pincon at Alado

     Andrew Pincon

    #2071

    Feb 9

    I thought the following suggestions would be useful to all the BaW 07'ers joining in the two sessions Saturday and I'd like to frame these suggestions in a geographic context. The first will be from Australia with Geoff Kaye at 1:00 GMT and the second with me, Andy Pincon from the US Midwest at 16:00 GMT. For those you joining in one or both of these sessions, you will note the technologies are very similar and I'll be explaining the origin and evolution of these tools during my session at 16:00 GMT, since our organization has been on the development team since the inception of these tools.
    Also, I'd like to suggest that you try to view the streaming video I recommended in an earlier post, "Warriors of the Net". This video will provide
    you with the basic understanding of how your computer and the Internet in general works and it's quite entertaining. Here's a link to the main page with multi lingual versions of the video. http://www.warriorsofthe.net/movie.html
    There's a reason I suggest this video to anyone and everyone working in 21st Century Education which will be covered during my presentation so this is good background material.
    I may have a virtual colleague, Dave Winet, join in my session. Dave is an original Webhead and the person who suggested to Vance the name of this group, Webheads, ten years ago.

     Nelba

    #2082

    Feb 9

    I have already watched the movie, and found it super! It not only offers a clear explanation with fantastic animation but also the possibility of listening to it in different languages.

     Sharon Betts

    #2094

    Feb 9

      I have used this movie with classes before. It is a good way to begin.

     Moira Hunter

    #2140

    Feb 11

    Thank you very much for a very interesting 60 minutes in Alado which was greatly appreciated by all BaW07 participants present.
    You are all invited to go to our blog http://baw07.motime.com/ and to leave your comments.
    If you were unable to attend, I will be posting the link to our blog as soon as this is available.

     

    Week 4 Tools 

     

    Comparing Voice Tools

    Gladys Baya

    #2009

    Feb 8

    HandyBits is still my favourite when either the sender or receiver work on a dial-up connection, as it is the only one that allows you to record and play offline, as far as I know, and it's definitely intuitive.... My only reservation (is there always a but?) is that Spybot will delete it as spyware whenever I run it.... why???? I just need to reinstall a missing component then, but....
    Springdoo will just keep messages for 30 days, useful if you want to video yourself too... perhaps to explain something for the computer to
    a friend, focusing the camera on your screen as you click and record the explanations?
    Vaestro is a voice forum, my personal drawback is I have no patience to click on each message and stay at the site waiting to hear how they
    go...
    And Chinswing looked quite friendly early today, but though it said I'd succeeded in sending a message, I couldn't see it at the audio
    blog where it was embedded, and now, trying to contribute to Vicky's thread, I've been prevented from getting access to the server ("temporarily unavailable")... I don't know how long they'll keep messages either... Actually, I need to explore this one in depth...
    What was that other voice tool we tried last year at WIA (I think), where you had circles of friends and you posted recorded messages for
    them?
    And then there's your Podmail account... I haven't tried using it for voice mails... any experiences to share?

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #2013

    Feb 8

    Yes, I also like handybits and used it a lot to record and then upload recordings to blogs, web pages, etc.
    However, since I discovered Audacity, I have not used Handybits anymore.

    [Re: Gladys' reservations concerning Spybot:]
    It never happened to me, but yes, some people had that problem.

    If you are registered to Springdoo, your recordings are kept there. I have my students copy the URL to
    their recordings and post them to their wikis, and they have remained there. I have just checked the recordings done by my students in October last year, and they are still there. I use Springdoo when I want my students to post their recordings to their wikis.
    Re: Vaestro: You can click on the recording you want to hear after clicking on stop for the recording you are playing. If
    you don't want to listen, you can record without listening to any of the messages ;-)
    My only experience with Chinswing is with the thread created by Moira, I like the fact that you don't have to download it anymore, and that you can see the photo of the person speaking. The registration process is very easy and straight forward.
    I use MyChingo a lot. I like it because it has board where you can make your messages public or private
    (individually), and you can download the recordings. I don't use it when I want the students to post their own recording to their pages because I would have to download the recordings, send them to the students for them to be able to upload them to their wikis. You can keep a discussion going but not threaded.
    Pod0matic is great as voice blog, but the voice quality is not good when recording on the web, so I upload
    voice files from Audacity. This is the podomatic blog I am using this trimester: http://cities-buildings.podomatic.com
    I think that each tools can be used for different purposes, that's why we should know how they work, their advantages and drawbacks, to be able to make wise decisions when needed :-)

    Julia Yatsenko

    #2057

    Feb 8

    Audacity is really great for using in class, as it enables recording and playing offline. My students use it for preparing
    phonetic reading & recitig poetry.  Besides, they use it to record for their podomatic blog http://juliay.podomatic.com/ (they are eager to communicate with other people/students from all over the world, so feel free to leave your/your students' comments) As for MyChingo, I've never heard of it. Could you share the link?

    Maru del Campo

    #2084

    Feb 9

    Please leave a message on my Sringdoo Communicator. http://www.springdoo.com/suscribe/mmvcentro
    My Evoca Communicator is not posted on any blog yet, the URL is: http://evoca.com/mmvcentro
    I could post Springdoo on my blog!!! I do not like the layout but I will learn to arrange it. I would like to post my Evoca communicator at Motime but I have not got around to make my blog there!!!

    Ronaldo Lima

    #2088

    Feb 9

    TheSpringdoo one won't open here... =(  It says "message could not be found"

     

    Evoca


    Dafne Gonzalez
    #1811
    Feb 4
    My first experience with EVOCA
    Dear Moira and all, I just tried EVOCA for the first time. It looks very nice and I registered immediately :-)  Well, my experience:  When I was filling in the registration form, I did not like the fact that I had to give my phone number. Then, once registered, I did not get the possibility
    to record from the web, the recorder was not active.  So, I recorded in Audacity and uploaded the file. No problem. I added the recording to the BaW group :-)  Then I decided to change the phone number for a non-venezuelan number, and like magic, I got the recoder in the BaW group ;-)
    My reflections:
    I think that having only 60 minutes to record is not very convenient for class work especially if you have large groups. 12 students recording 5 minutes each will get the site full :-(  It is more complex to set up than Vaestro, Springdoo and MyChingo, so it would take more class time to have students create their own account, record and send the recording to the group. Anyway, it is always nice to explore new tools and
    have more choices to select from :-) My 2 cents for now

     Mabel Quiroga

    #1818

    Feb 5

    Hi Dafne, I'm trying a technical twist in this message. I've temporarily lost the password for my yahoo account, so I can get to read message from the group's homepage but I cannot reply.  However, I can still send messages from Outlook. I have signed up with a new account mabelquiroga@... to be available in yahoo messenger tomorrow for the first session of week 4. In the meantime I'll keep my fingers crossed that they will give me a new password otherwise I would have to sign up for more than 10 SIG yahoo groups!!!  I also agree that it is kind of taken aback by the fact that I had to leave my telephone number and I thought I would never use it in that capacity. I don't remember having problems by giving them my Argentine phone number However, I didn't experience any problems recording a message, though I still have to get Moira's approval to officially join the group It would not work with large groups. The registration is a hassle in any case, but you have to do that with all tools nowadays. Well hope this works.

     Dafne Gonzalez

    #1819

    Feb 5  

    Hi Mabel, Your message arrived here, so it means you can still be in touch :-)  Regarding the phone number, well, you know that in Venezuela we have certain restrictions like not being able to freely buy foreign currency, or use our credit cards abroad (we cannot buy through the Internet), etc. and the problem I had might be caused by this :-( Hope you solve your password problem :-)  I will only be able to attend the first half an hour of the session tomorrow because I have a class.

    Moira Hunter

    #1831

    Feb 5

    Hi Daf,
    I didn't fill in my phone number at all:-) 60 minutes is per person I think...will check.  This is the first time I have set up a group like this - and there are different ways of setting up a group. I think this is good for security. However, I woke up to email requests to join the group which I am manually accepting now. Apologies to those in different time zones ;-)
    This is the email type I receive :-
    "Hello Moira,
    Can SARAH join your BAW07 group? Why don't you take a look at SARAH's profile.
    So, if you'd like to let SARAH in (or not), click here, or copy the link below and paste it in your web browser.
    Thanks so much, Moira, for maintaining BAW07 and spreading your voice!
    Keeping you vocal,
    The Evoca Team
    Empower your voice™"


    Daf, your recording had not been added to the group as I hadn't woken up yet to accept your request :-) It now is :-) Before it was public. I don't find it difficult to set up. I did take time in December reading which setting for groups allows what and this is why I explain in my recording what type of group I have set up. This is an example. I'm looking forward to seeing how others here will use this tool. I think that it has great potential.                                                                   

    Christina Lyunggren

    #1843

    Feb 5

    Well, I was a bit cheeky when I signed up with Chinswing ....... I just made up a number ....I don't intend to use the tool with my phone, so ...!
    I had problems with making the recording when I was at Mozilla but when I sweitched to Explorere it all wen t hunky dory (do people still say that?) A pity because I prefer Firefox!

    Maru del Campo

    #1878

    Feb 6

    I had also problems with making my evoca recording when I was at Mozilla and had goose bumps when I entered my phone number. From my experience with Graham in Alado I thought that Mozilla worked better with sound; I was using IE and Vance helped me to change to Mozilla -by the way I did not know it was another navegator!. Thanks to your message Chrissan... I undestand evoca works best with IE.  I will launch IE and will adjust my recording again.

    Moira Hunter

    #1879

    Feb 6

    I use Evoca with Firefox and have no problem at all. I also never gave my phone number as this is only necessary if you want to use the phone with Evoca. As I never use the phone and always 'phone' from my pc, Idid not give my number. And I agree, I don't like giving my phone number anyway.

    Moira Hunter

    #1886

    Feb 6

    There are now 13 members in the Evoca group I set up. I have sent a reply to each person who sent a message. I sent a private message to Cheryl and not to the group members (this is a new feature) as Cheryl had not left a message.  This group has RSS feed. I would like to know what you, the group members, are receiving and listening to. In theory, you should be able to access all messages sent within the group. Is this true? Could you give me some feedback please? This would be really appreciated as this is the first time I have set up a group with these settings. Thanks!!
    This page FAQ is quite helpful for those using Evoca http://www.evoca.com/links/faq.jsp

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #1900

    Feb 6

    I have been receiving e-mail messages announcing all the new messages to the EVOCA BaW07 group ;-)

     

     

    Gabmail, Gabjam, Springdoo, HandyBits... and Moira's Glasses

    Jennifer Verschoor

    #1914

    Feb 6

    I´m sending you for the first time a Gabmail. Hope you receive it. LOL! To view your GabMail(tm) video email message simply click the link below or copy and paste it into your browser.
    http://FreeGabMail.com/AV/Viewer.html?SID=Y2r1dA17A130XGR0

    Moira Hunter

    #19

    Feb 6

    I'll look at it and reply tomorrow when I've done my hair and put my lipstick on  ;-)

    Sharon Betts

    #1937

    Feb 6

    Thank you Jennifer - nice to see your face and hear you directly.  I don't have a webcam on this machine, but will try to test it from my laptop tomorrow. (Gabmail)

    Chrissan Ljunggren

    #1980

    Feb 7

    Hello BaWers, I know that you might not need another tool to play with at this time of the course. Two years ago at this stage of the BaW2005 I was tearing my hair out by the roots in sheer desperation!A BaW experience is overwhelming, don't you think? I think it was Hala who suggested I should go for a wig;-) Anyway, knowing that you can't keep your hands off another challenge,this is to remind you of another voice recording tool for you to explore, the HandyBits! Go to http://www.handybits.com and choose voice mail on the left menu.  Click "download" and choose "run" instead of "save", answer "yes" every time you get a question and after 5 seconds - voilá!
    One small but important piece of advice is : before you make your first recording choose view - options- and UNtick the "play beep before recording". Question (optional!!!): pros and cons comparing Vaestro, Springdoo, Chinswing( my new favourite) and HandyBits? Let's play!

    Moira Hunter

    #1981

    Feb 7

    I think it was last year that you had all the computer gremlin problems and then I did and we exchanged cyberwigs, wasn't it? ;-)))) And then the gremlins spread through the group ???? What a laugh all the BaWers had in the session!
    Keep them in reserve, we might need them! Thanks for reminding everybody about the questions in the wiki to be answered for this week http://baw07.pbwiki.com/week4

    Sharon Betts

    #2028

    Feb 8

    I finally got my camera to work like a webcam and uploaded a video to Springdoo. I also started another blog to place all the tools I have
    been working with. First was the Springdoo player. check it out. http://webheadtools.motime.com/

    Moira Hunter

    #2033

    Feb 8

    Brilliant Sharon - the picture is clear, your voice is good despite not having a headset and I love your pink outfit. No reply feature though :-) so I couldn't say how much I love the pink!

    Sharon Betts

    #2046

    Feb 8

    There is a comment button, but no reply for voice. I will need to look into that.

    Maru del Campo

    #2036

    Feb 8

    I am playing with Springdoo, serously having fun!!  So far, I embeded audio and video on my blog. I did not like where they were placed so I have to learn how to change them around. I sent a Springdoo Message to Moira, she replied; her text message arrived to my inbox saying she had just send a reply. I did no hear her reply.  Somehow I recorded another bit and sent it to myself, but surprise... An e-mail
    with Moira as sender arrived again and it was the message from myself that I had just recorded!! I do not know why... or better, how did I manage to send myself a voice mail with Moira´s e-mail address!!??  I also need to learn to manage my contact list in Yahoo Mail, Yahoo Messenger and now Springdoo contact list as well. I have a mess in my contact lists. When I signed in at a cyber, Yahoo Messenger went like crazy asking permission to everyone in my list to be added, and also opening windows for me to accept guests. With tags I am also tangled, changing to Mozilla and having added Delicius lots of things to try out yet.

    Christina Ljunggren

    #2039

    Feb 8

    "how did I manage to send myself a voice mail with Moira´s e-mail address!!??"
    Hi Maru, well this takes special abilities and techie savvy.....or the participation of cyberspace gremlins...;-) Moira and myself met a LOT of those last year!!!

    Maru del Campo

    #2040

    Feb 8

    I need to buy a sound card to avoid the background noice, maybe by next week you will hear me more clearly. Lots of love: Maru
    To play this SpringMail, click on the 'Play Message' button below.
    Play Message <http://www.Springdoo.com/R1FBADB444FE4A944E>

    Sharon Betts

    #

    Feb

    I finally got my camera to work like a webcam and uploaded a video to Springdoo. I also started another blog to place all the tools I have
    been working with. First was the Springdoo player. check it out.
    http://webheadtools.motime.com/

    Moira Hunter

    #2041

    Feb 8

    I can see them all appearing on your blog like magic. Remember Gabmail too :-)  That's easy to embed too

    ( http://moirahunter.motime.com/).
    Cheers to the speaking blog!

    Cora Chen

    #2044

    Feb 8

    Sharon, Your blog is very attractive with a very nice template and color! Congratulations on your new creation!

    Moira Hunter

    #2121

    Feb 10

    Click here and leave a message and then see what you think!
    http://FreeGabMail.com/AV/Viewer.html?SID=158NiWv4TQJ2WQ9K

    Susana Araujo

    #2123

    Feb 10

    I saw your video message! WOW! It's really nice to meet you, I mean, to actually see you live! Great Gabjam :-) It´s really amazing how technology developed throughout the years and we are now able to see and hear people by the distance of a clic! The image and the sound are so clear! I don't have a webcam, so I guess I can't leave a message there... Great e-toy! I'm going to add it to my favourites and give it a try when I get a camera.

    Teresa d'Eca

    #2125

    Feb 10

    I loved seeing you and your fab glasses! Can't wait tomeet you f2f in Seattle! I really like the quality of the image - the best I've seen in these video tools, if my neurones aren't letting me down! - and a very clear audio. Hurrah for GabMail!!!! I'll, try it one fo these days when I feel less tired, more relaxed.

    Cora Chen

    #2133

    Feb 11

    Gabjam looks like a great tool with clear image and audio. Thank you so much for sharing this tool with us! :-)))

    Hala Fawzi

    #2135

    Feb 11

    Your video looks geat with your glasses on!I have never thought thr image and the audio would be so clear. Thanks for sharing.
    (Did you tell us the story of these glasses before?:-)))

    Dennis Newson

    #2136

    Feb 11

    Good to see the famous glasses again. Didn't leave a reply because I'm still in my dressing grown and I've been too irregular a visitor to comment on what you have done so far. Two weeks to go.

    Moira Hunter

    #2138

    Feb 11

    Duhhhh??? My glasses have no story .... - unless you mean the story of having to wear them in order to be able to see??? ;-)))))))))))
    On a serious note, probably you are thinking of Jeff in Worldbridges who has called me 'Moira with those glasses' in the past.

    Moira Hunter

    #2139

    Feb 11

    Well, you've hit the nail on the head, haven't you? You have to look as if you're going to the work place (or at least your head) when using a webcam. You can't do it in your pyjamas with uncombed hair! Now Teresa said she was too tired to send a mesage. I myself was rather
    shattered when I sent it but I thought, heck, I'll send it neverthertheles (knowing I was not looking my best) otherwise it will be too late for Week 4.  I had recorded a gabjam mesage and had embedded it in my motime blog before the workshop began but this has disappeared into cyberspace. Yesterday, I couldn't embed the html for this message. The html for the messag was incorrect and gave me images of other people ........ a mystery to be solved.  So yes, the video is crystal clear and so is the audio. You have a threaded discussion and this can be embedded onto websites. BUT there is advertising at the beginning and the end (I think) and you just have to click it away and then
    it does not repeat itself.  There are advantages in using this with some learners and of course, there are disadvantages. The disadvantages are that everyone must have a webcam, we ladies must look glamorous (remember the lipstick and forget about the perfume!), and this may not appeal at all to certain learners. The advantages are numerous and there are lots of possibilities of using this tool with learners. Please get dressed quickly Dennis so that we can see you Dennis :-)))))

    Nelba

    #2145

    Feb 11

    Yes the image and the audio are very clear. I like your glasses but I envy your headset - I am always having problems with my mic.
    Great Week 4. Congratulations!

    Moira Hunter

    #2147

    Feb 11

    My headset is an Altec Lansing AHS423 one which sits at the back of your head and not on your head (very important for ladies - doesn't flatten the hairdo!). Here they cost about 20 -25 Euros, so not expensive. Also, a very useful feature - on the lead itself there is a button where I can adjust the volume, mute the mic and I can click this onto my jacket if I want. They're not expensive so when they 'die', it doesn't hurt so much to buy another one. And the quality is good.

    Nelba

    #2146

    Feb 11

    I completely agree that the web has many advantages but one very important for women: appearence. This reminds me of an old cartoon: The Supersonics ( I do not know if it is the right name in English, in Spanish "Los Supersónicos").  This comic was about a family in the future.I used to watch it when I was a child - let's say 35 years ago . It was sci-fi cartoon showing life in the future: flying cars, robots doing housework and video conferencing instead of telephones! .The wife had a mask for video conferencing , so she always looked gorgeous.
    Shall we get a mask, too?

    Dennis Newson

    #2151

    Feb 11

    What a marvellous idea - masks. We could make them fairly easily from photos of ourselves 20, 30 etc. years ago. No (as usual?) I am not being totally serious. One of the fascinations of webcams, of course, is that one can see what people look like - another dimension is added.

    Susan Wood

    #2148

    Feb 11

    I loved seeing/hearing you so clearly in Gabjam -- thanks for sharing this tool with us! The video and sound quality are very impressive, and the informality made me feel very relaxed (which, incidentally, I think is an important feeling to achieve with newbies and students!). You asked for our opinions of Gabjam? well, although I loved the quality of the recording, I found it frustrating because there appeared to be no lever to pull the video back or easily replay it after it had completely loaded, and with my primitive system & connection, replaying is usually necessary. Most of these tools stop sporadically the first time through while my system is buffering.  Secondly, I was unable to reply using a microphone only (no webcam), which means that reply is restricted to those with the full array of gadgets. I haven't yet had the time to explore most of the other tools we've covered this week, so I can't rank them yet, but these restrictions would make me less inclined to use Gabjam with a class. I think that it is important for all students to be able to respond in one form or another.
    Cheers, Susan W (sharing the flu and with renewed appreciation for all of the remedies in our wiki) (in Estonia)

    Ronaldo Lima

    #2161

    Feb 11

    I read the comments before watching the video, and felt very curious to watch it to get to know your famous glasses! Beautiful, btw. I tried using Gabjam, but my video quality wasn't as good as yours. Maybe it's my webcam (it's a little old, I think).  Well, I loved week 4 (especially because it was the first one I was not behind schedule - because of my trip during the three first weeks...) and loved meeting you guys.

    Moira Hunter

    #2165

    Feb 11

    It was great to hear your voice in DimDim and in the skypecast!!! And I'm so happy you loved Week 4!!  How about sending a gabmail, or a springdoo message or starting a chinswing thread??  Thanks for the compliments about my glasses! I have others but these are my
    favourite ones :-)

    Angeles Berman

    #2163

    Feb 11

    Still having problems to understand times, clocks and GTM...wherever :)  Your video is so clear and easy to listen. I can`t see the mic...XD .  It looks like a wonderful one. This is my first attempt to use Gabjam

    Moira Hunter

    #2166

    Feb 11

    Angeles, You're beautiful!!!  There is a buzzing sound behind your voice. You have to look at your audio settings to get rid of ths. I have helped Rita in Argentina many times with this so often 'visit Latin America' :-)) Just contact me on skype or YM if you want to go through this with me :-)  If you had clicked on 'Reply' to my first message, this would have been added to
    the thread and then we would have seen two picturezs on the left. Why not try it?  Have you seen the previous email re my headset? It's not expensive but it is good :-)

    Cristina Costa

    #2164

    Feb 11

    I gave it a try. Here it is! http://FreeGabMail.com/AV/Viewer.html?SID=0pmX7PXa83C0OBkk

    Moira Hunter

    #2167

    Feb 11

    Hi Cris, Lovely to hear your voice! There is a buzz on it though - maybe look at your audio settings fto check for the mic/speaker settings :-))

    Mary del Campo

    #2189

    Feb 11

    I just saw you and heard your voice at Gabjam! Congratulations! You look very pretty!! Thanks for letting me see the uses of this environment, I had not visited Gabjam before. I do not have a camera so there is no video in my reply. Good luck and continue using the tools.

    Maru del Campo

    #2191

    Feb 11

    Hi Moira! I just listened to your video message at Gabjam.  I do not have a camera so the video will be black.
    The quality of the video is better than in Springdoo, it does not fragments itself. Springdoo adds my picture to the video when I do not have camera which is nice The sound of my message is low and I could not improve it, remember I need a sound card. I hope that when I answered I had treaded the voice message.
    The following is the link that showed up: http://FreeGabMail.com/AV/Viewer.html?SID=9N5a2a9YUJaD1ckl

     

    Chinswing


    Moira Hunter
    #1796
    Feb 4,

    #1897

    Feb 6

    Hello everybody, I have just started a discussion thread here at Chinswing. Here is the discussion thread BaW07 - Week 4 (under Education category) http://www.chinswing.com/pages/discussion.aspx?id=df54e557-3700-4eab-9c40-5cf01fd8c673 Hope I've got it right this time :-)  It is also on my wiki page in the Participants Gallery in Moira's Page.  Please go and have a look and leave your comments :-)  Listening to my own voice, I thought I sounded rather 'tinny';  Am I right or is it just my impression?

     Moira Hunter

    #1895

    Feb 6

    A discussion/conversation has been started here http://www.chinswing.com/pages/record.aspx?DID=df54e557-3700-4eab-9c40-5cf01fd8c673 and I'd like to thank Dennis, Mabel, Monica, José and Chrissan for starting the discussion! How about jumping in, taking the plunge and joining us with your ideas??

     Moira Hunter

    #1896

    Feb 6

    I would like to share this correspondence with you. Start reading my original email at the bottom and work your way up.

    This is the way I go about things online and I learn a lot:-) I guessed wildly that the 'tinny' sound was because it was web-based but I am no technician and oh, it's a lovely feeling to see I wasn't wrong :-)))) Glad Dean didn't get too tech-savvy in his reply though ;-)

    When this product first appeared with a very complicated download, I left a message saying it was difficult and unuser-friendly. These guys immediately left a message on the same thread saying that a Christmas present was on its
    way, that they were working on it and that it would be web-based ..... and we all got our Christmas present!!

    I'm just trying to illustrate that these guys are there developing tools for us, so our feedback is really important, rather than just writing off a tool and never using it again.

    Michael, who created My Chingo, is just as supportive and rapid. When I wanted to put it into my wikispaces a long time ago, I couldn't, Michael couldn't and we then had a three-way conversation to solve it and voila, I could put it in my wikispaces because wikispaces did the necessary to allow for this! But wikispaces took much longer to react ;-)

    So, for people using Firefox and experiencing difficulties (which I use and
    don't have problems with Chinswing), please drop Dean a note to solve the
    mystery :-))

    Thanks for reading.

    Moira to Chinswing:

    Hi,
    I'm inviting people to contribute to a discussion BaW07 Week 4 in the Education Category. Some people are reporting that they are having problems with Firefox. I use Firefox and don't have any problem so I don't understand their difficulties. Also, many report that the signing up is difficult. More important, there is a 'tinny' sound on each recorded message. Can anything be done? Thanks for your help.


    Chinswing to Moira:

    Thanks for writing and letting me know about the problems. For the most part, we can only know of problems if they are reported (the main reason for Chinswing being a "beta" version), and nobody has reported anything lately - so I'm glad you mentioned it! I just listened to the discussion you started - a great conversation, and especially great for me to hear feedback. Have you heard anything more than what they have already mentioned in the discussion? I would need more information to fix the issues/problems. I think I might contact them directly via email and ask. The "tinny" sound you hear does have to do with changing over to the web-based recorder. It is caused by the audio compression component. I might look into increasing the quality slightly, though there is a balance between audio quality and file size. The larger the files, the more data needs to be passed over the net (slower response/streaming, more space needed on the server..). I'm beginning to get technical, so I'l leave it there ;-) I'll see what I can do.
    Thanks again. I hope you continue to enjoy Chinswing - we have more features on the way.
    Dean.
    www.chinswing.com < http://www.chinswing.com>

     

    Moira to Chinswing:

     

    Thank you for your very prompt reply. If you don't mind, I would like to post this email to a group of educators I am working with at the moment to share this and also to illustrate the great support you give!

     

    Chinswing to Moira:


    Hi again Moira,
    That will be fine.... and thanks for asking first :-) By the way, you have obviously spent some time thinking about online voice communication methods (I looked at the BaW07 site). If you ever have any suggestions/thoughts/ideas on improvements or features, I'd be interested in hearing about them!

    Bye for now,
    Dean 

    Cheryl Oakes

    #1944

    Feb 6

    This is a great lesson. All these wonderful , free , Web tools are in constant flux. When I am ready to teach a lesson to students or staff
    I am always checking and rechecking the website. It never fails when I am ready for a workshop using a tool, for example podomatic, many
    changes were made and I couldn't find my way around as easily as I had during preparations.  Also,the programmers and developers are looking for feedback and encourage us to give them suggestions. So, be bold and comment, provide feedback and you will be rewarded!
    Rock on!

    Vicky Saumell

    #1975

    Feb 7

    Inspired by Moira's thread on Chinswing I have started a new thread to build a project for my elementary level students. I would be really grateful if you could contribute by recording a personal introduction including name, profession, country, city, nationality and any other info you want to add. My intention is for them to listen to some basic introductions language with different accents.
    The Chinswing thread is at http://www.chinswing.com/pages/discussion.aspx?id=54effa83-75d1-40c3-a4c9-54e5e6355795

    Moira Hunter

    #1976

    Feb 7

    What a great idea !

    Chrissan Lunggren

    #1979

    Feb 7

    Hello Vicky, I just left a message on your Chinswing thread! What a splendid use of this tool. I'll remember that with my next group of
    students and then I'll ask for the help of all you BaWers ;-)

    Sarah Braxton

    #1997

    Feb 7

    This is a great project. Unfortunately I have been unable to record in Chinswing. At the group's advise I have contacted the Chinswing administrator. I received a very quick reply.but now I need to dedicate some time to answering his questions to troubleshoot the problem. I am anxious to use it and will certainly add a message for your students after I solve the problem.

    Christina Ljunggren

    #2023

    Feb 8

    Sarah, please let us all know the result of the troubleshooting. Can you share with us the questions the administrator asks, we will all learn from that! We're looking forward to hearing from you on our Chinswing thread! Go for it!

     

    MyChingo

     Dafne Gonzalez

    #2070

    Feb 9

    Julia, if you go to the BaW blog you will be able to try MyChingo, and in the "toolsexplored" page in our wiki (SideBar) you will find the link ;-)

     

     

     

    Elluminate

    Moira Hunter

    #1851

    Feb 6

    Those who attended the Elluminate session today and arrived on time won GOLD STARs and a free room for three participants!!!!
    This is only available for those who won the gold stars here http://www.elluminate.com/vroom/ Naaaaa, I'm just joking :-)))))))))
    You can play around with your own Elluminate room for free whilst waiting to graduate as a Webhead by clicking on the above link!!!!
    However, on a serious note, real-time online learning is exactly that: it happens in real time so the timing is extremely important. Participants should always arrive a good 15 minutes before the session begins because you never know what can happen and it gives you the time to check your audio settings (the most difficult area in online synchronous learning) and feel comfortable that when you want to talk, people can hear you, and you don't have to ask all the time "Can you hear me?".  And when you do arrive late, well it's like in real life, you do so discreetly

    Moira Hunter

    #1892

    Feb 6

    To Amy: I've just been reading the blog and found out from Maru's comments that you use Elluminate in your teaching.
    Would you like to share some of your experiences here with us or by sending a voice mail?

    Amy Meckelborg

    #1950

    Feb 7

    Yes, Elluminate is about the only tool we are using here in BaW that I am familiar with. I have been supporting the use of it within the
    Faculty of Education for about a year now. It is used primarily by courses that are all online. Those who use it, seem to be very pleased
    with it. We are still trying to get more people to use it, but as with any technology, it seems pretty scary to many. In fact, it is very user-friendly and provides lots of opportunity for interaction - if you choose to use it that way. I'm afraid I missed Jonathon's presentation
    (I had the times wrong) so I don't know what he covered. But I am happy to meet anyone in an Elluminate session - which should be easy enough with the new free vRoom - to answer questions or to play around with the various tools. If lots of people are interested, I could try to set up a meeting with our installation of Elluminate at school, but I'd need to check on that. I'd be happy to share what I have learned these past few months so feel free to contact me.

    Moira Hunter

    #1956

    Feb 6

    Thanks for the feedback. I agree that Elluminate is a great tool and complete.  In Jonathan's session, I deliberately asked him to show the breakout room feature to participants because this is excellent in Elluminate, and not many virtual rooms have this. For online learning, it's a wonderful tool for pair and group work. But of course, it's expensive, so for teachers the free room is great news and  once a Webhead graduate, the room in Learning Times is also available :-)  Jane Bozarth is speaking on Thursday at 15.00 GMT in Elluminate and I really
    hope you can make it :-))

    Sharon Betts

    #1939

    Feb 6  

    I know it is crazy, but I am trying to keep up with some of the presentations in the Connectivism online Conference going on now out of Canada. They also have some great speakers. They are using Elluminate-- NEAT. http://umanitoba.ca/learning_technologies/connectivisim/schedule.php

    Moira Hunter

    #1953

    Feb 6

    I'm doing exactly the same :-) So we're both crazy - let's just make sure we go to the same nutters' home when we go long-term loopy ;-))))
    Yes, they're using Elluminate and then Moodle for asynchronous discussions which is a nice combination. I haven't been able to get to any of the live chats, and you?
    Just to confirm here in this mail that the real-time online world is full of unexpected glitches. Diana Oblinger gave a great talk yesterday but had real problems with audio for a long time (in live online standards) and it actually started late.
    Some participants (160 yesterday and 200 on Friday) still had problems hearing her once it started but then the quality gradually improved and the exchange going on was dynamite.
    BTW, at the same time, I was cooking the evening dinner (roast chicken etc) and talking to Daf on YM, relaying some of the great tips, comments and urls Diana was giving. However, I nearly burnt the rice ;-)
    See you in that home, Sharon ;-)

    Moira Hunter #1958

    Feb 6

    Thanks for the feedback. I agree that Elluminate is a great tool and complete. In Jonathan's session, I deliberately asked him to show the breakout room feature to participants because this is excellent in Elluminate, and not many virtual rooms have this. For online learning, it's a wonderful tool for pair and group work. But of course, it's expensive, so for teachers the free room is great news and once a Webhead graduate, the room in Learning Times is also available :-) Jane Bozarth is speaking on Thursday at 15.00 GMT in Elluminate and I really hope you can make it :-))  

     Ronaldo Lima

    #2087

    Feb 9

    I have participated only in the sessions at Elluminate so far, and I share your opinion that the teacher has to be a multi-tasker at all times to keep track of everything going on (Jonathan and Jane were very good at that). I also found the narrow chat window annoying at first, but if you click on the "view" option on the top left menu, you can choose one from many viewing options, and in some of them the chat window looks neater.  

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #1926

    Feb 6

    I was very frustrated for not being able to attend today's session, and to top it all, I was also having problems to connect to the Elluminate room at LT. I had the feeling the problem was due to IE7. But I am not a techie and did not know what to do. So, I sent the Elluminate support team a message, and I have just received the reply below, and I follow the instructions for Elluminate and for Discover-e, and yesssss, the problem was solved. Now, I will be able to sleep peacefully ;-) We should never give up!
    Read message below:
    Hi Dafne,
    You are experiencing an issue with Internet Explorer 7's (IE7) due to its new security setup we recommend that all participants and moderators connecting using Internet Explorer 7 make the following modifications to their Internet Explorer set-up. Two symptoms that users who do not make these changes may see are:
    -difficulty playing flash files (.swf) uploaded to the multimedia library (a white or blank multimedia window appears instead)
    -when logging into sessions, appearing as Your Name 1in the participant area of the interface even though only logged in one time.
    First, add Elluminate.com and localhost as a trusted websites.
    Step 1. Access the Tools-->Internet options menu in IE7.
    Step 2. Select the security tab of the Internet Options, click "Trusted sites", then open the Sites dialogue.
    Step 3. Add "*.elluminate.com" (the * makes all sub domains of elluminate.com trusted.) and "http://localhost" as a trusted website. Make sure the checkmark for "Require server verification (https:) for all sites in this zone is not" checked. This change will allow flash
    files (.swf) uploaded to the Elluminate Live! multimedia library to play properly.
    Secondly, change the Internet Security settings to automatically prompt for file download.
    Step 4. Close the Trusted Sites dialog and open the "Custom Level" button back in the Internet options security tab.
    Set "Automatic prompting for file downloads" to Enabled. This will allow you to properly launch meetings and your name will be properly displayed in the Participants area within Elluminate Live!
    Maria, Elluminate Technical Support
     

     

    DimDim

    Moira Hunter

    #1934

    Feb 6

    DimDim is a 'baby' virtual classroom in the process of being 'born' so still has some teething problems. It is open source and web-based : translated this means there are no downloads, it is cross-platform and free. If you would like to come in and have a 'feel' of this room, I will open one tomorrow from 12.00 - 14.00 GMT. Do not come early as I will only open it at 12.00. You can come in at any time and stay for as long as you want. I will keep it open.
    When I open it, I will send the url to this list. I can only give this to you once I open the room. This url is no longer valid once I close the room. This is an informal 'get-together' with no formal speaker, so put your boots on and come and play!!

    Susan Wood

    #1957

    Feb 6

    any chance of opening DimDim for play tomorrow (Thursday) before the Elluminate session? I would love to play, but have classes today.
    Tomorrow, however, I've managed to find cover for my classes so that I can attend the seminar! I'm probably not the only one who would like an alternative time if it's possible?

    Johanna Stirling

    #1969

    Feb 7

    Having been at today’s Dimdim ‘playground’ I’d really recommend others to try to get along to one of the sessions. Great fun! And interesting to compare all these tools.  I had a little trouble getting in as ‘moira’ was already in the password box but it wouldn’t accept it, so I deleted and rewrote it and that seemed to do the trick. Also you have to accept or say yes to the little pop-up you get
    on entry in order to be able to speak. Then your microphone will be on. Be warned – I was chomping away at my lunch, thinking that I was just listening, not that everyone could hear!!

    Cristina Costa

    #1971

    Feb 7

    Although I couldn't join the talk, as I was at work, I could hear and loved the guide session. Thanks Moira!

    Moira Hunter

    #2017

    Feb 8

    This room is web-based and the key for the room is only known when I open the room and this is why I post it to the list once I open it. As I don't know who is going to 'drop in', I cannot send out individual email invites although this is possible.  I post the url to the email list as not everyone has added me to their YM contact list. You are not on my list ;-) Also, these are casual sessions I am offering for anyone to come to for 5 or 20 or 60 minutes whatever, when I am have the room open. I am not giving a formal presentation in these sessions.

    Moira Hunter

    #2188

    Feb 11

    I have posted an entry to our blog for your comments on the open sessions in DimDim which I gave in order to show what features this web-based open source virtual classroom has. Please leave your thoughts on our baby DimDim in its Alpha version :-)

    Moira Hunter

    #2190

    Feb 11

    I just wanted to clarify two points about DimDim.  There are two ways to be invited to a DimDim room. One is by email invitation and the other is by sending the url. I sent the url as these were open sessions where people could drop in and out whenever convenient to them whilst I opened the room. As I didn't know who would come, this was a better way of opening the room.
    The second point is that I was not learning to be a moderator. I was  troubleshooting the problems and reporting these back to the IT in DimDim, taking screenshots all the time, so that these bugs are removed. I called Sundar in to the room for him to actually see from the participant's view what was happening when you had all those problems. Hope that is clearer now :-)

     

    Figuring out Time Zones

     Hala Fawzi

    #2063

    Feb 9

    I am working on something right now and I need your urgent help!
    Needed:
    Convert CET to GMT
    12:00 CET=???????? GMT
    20:00 CET =??????? GMT
    These maybe of help:
    http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/central-european-time/
    REQUEST:
    Could any one volunteer to create a tutorial in converting times with using ? I know, I know, I know.Here you may find help, I know, http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/ but still I can't do it.Sorry, but I need more simpler one.I guess many newcomers are experiencing the same problem.Maybe can lend a helping hand. Ibrahim?? Time conversion reminds me of Maths , which I hated all my life, and still do!

     Moira Hunter

    #2064

    Feb 9

    Just 'popped in' between classes and saw this request :-)
    http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/central-european-time/
    It's winter for Dennis and myself so we are GMT + 1 = CET

     Dennis Newson

    #2066

    Feb 9

    Think I've got it. (See what you mean. No simple table with two columns.). Butif you go to your second URL, under REQUEST: Ignore lots of things and concentrate on the three boxes in the middle. If you select a country it will give you the time NOW in the middle, and tell you how far ahead of GMT that is (GMT + 6 or whatever). In the box on the left will be/should be your time, in warm Sudan and the GMT time, I think, appears on the right. Does that help?

    Dennis Newson

    #2067

    Feb 9

    Missed the 'creation of a tutorial' bit. How about using the URL you quoted and I was talking about and asking the
    students to produce what I think you would probably lke - two columns
    CET           GMT
    That should not be too difficult, should it?

    Hala Fawzi

    #2069

    Feb 9

    Thanks a thousand! I got it now! Do you believe I did not see the "user time zone" "box?

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #2070

    Feb 9

    Hala, I remember that Sus Nyrop created a tutorial for the timeclock back in 2005. No time now to look for the link, but you will find it on the baw05 "chatsessions webpage"

    Teresa d'Eca

    #2073

    Feb 9

    Here's the tutorial for the World Clock! Hope it helps for whatever you need it. I haven't been able to read mail this week. :-(
    http://64.71.48.37/teresadeca/webheads/baw/world-clock.html  I wonder why no one ever remembers to look for work by Webheads in our WiA Index page!!! < crying >  I love Audacity too and use it all the time.
    Hugs, Teresa (very aloof due to a major article and frantically trying to finish it)

    Susanne Nyrop

    #2089

    Feb 9

    Moira asked me to find a tutorial for world time zones that we used in last year's EVO I found it was not very updated , so I've elaborated with some more links in the side menu, and decorated the wikispace a bit before posting! http://timezoneplan.wikispaces.com/ Unfortunately I am too busy to join you actively. Good luck with your brave work.

    Moira Hunter

    #2107

    Feb 10

    Thanks for the update which I know Teresa will already have entered into her highly organised list :-)) I've been looking around the wiki and if you participants haven't yet, please do as it's worth the visit!!  In my virtual classroom, I often need a timer and there's a cool one in Sus's wiki, along with a fun interactive learning clock and a lovely page on the history of clocks. I had forgotten this one too so thanks for the reminder :-))
    http://beeks.eu/swf/handclock.swf

    Christina Ljunggren

    #2112

    Feb 10

    Such a great toy Moira! I'll certainly have good use for it as we have begun using a Smartboard in my school! Ready for Alado anyone?

     

    Participants' Discoveries

    Monica Veado

    #1938

    Feb 6

    I've been trying to organize my files (not an easy task when new articles and links keep coming!) and I found this interesting concept map which aims to review some of the most important issues concerning collaboration. Very comprehensive and very "visual"... You might find
    it useful!

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #1947

    Feb 6

    Right before going to bed, a thought crossed my mind.  The flood of tools that are being explored is so amazing, that keeping track of all of them is difficult, even if we post them to our del.icio.us, because sometimes we did not read the messages where they have been mentioned, or lost track of them. So, I decided to start a page with a list and liks to these tools, the ones I could remember after a long tiring day ;-)
    I invite you to add to the list, and keep adding as we go on in the session. This will be a place to go back to :-)

    Vicky Saumell

    #1973

    Feb 7

    I have been bookmarking the tools, but the wiki page collection is really helpful!

    Susan Wood

    #2025

    Feb 8

    I have to add an enthusiastic second to that one, Daf -- now we don't have to worry about missing treasures or losing them! Many thanks for organizing our tools -- I've been changing my bookmark categories around as I gain greater understanding of what these tools are and what they do and the result has been mildly chaotic. Growing pains!

    Sharon Betts

    #2048

    Feb 8

    Webhead #152 created a digital movie for you! You can view it at the following URL: http://www.dfilm.com/mm2s/mm_route.php?id=3148375
    Cheers, Webhead #152 and DFILM. Be sure to check out the web site at http://www.dfilm.com

    Moira Hunter

    #2079

    Feb 9

    I like the snowman.  It even tried to snow here a few days ago in Paris but it was pretty wet snow and that was it :-( Now it's cold and damp.

     

    Videos About the Internet

     

    Monica Veado

    #2050

    Feb 8

    This is an interesting video about the internet, take a look:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE
     

    Carla Raguseo

    #2076

    Feb 9

    Thanks for sharing! Inspired by the amazing video you sent, I went on looking for some Web 2.0 material on You Tube.  Have a look at this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsa5ZTRJQ5w&NR  Although it's not as moving as the previous one (with wonderful music), it's and effective summary of the tools and concepts we've been dicussing.
     

    Moira Hunter

    #2078

    Feb 9

     If you go to http://moirahunter.multiply.com/ you'll see a thank you to you for sharing this :-)  It's really excellent and I will definitely be using this with my university learners. I then looked at Mr Welsch's other videos - Kansas University seems to be pretty dynamic:-)  Thanks again!

    Teresa d'Eca

    #2124

    Feb 10

    Thanks for the video on Web 2.0. I really liked it and may use it in a future presentation. It's very clear and seems to draw on the main points. I also liked Monica's video. Both are quite powerful.
    I've added both to the Web 2.0 links in my OLE page. No, not Spanish! Take a look and you'll find out! ;-)
    http://64.71.48.37/teresadeca/webheads/online-learning-environments.htm
    Hugs all, Teresa

    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsa5ZTRJQ5w&NR Carla Raguseo
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE Monica Veado (Brazil) 

     

    Gladys Baya

    #2129

    Feb 10

    Super movie! I loved watching it in English, now my husband's about to enjoy it in Spanish (he's a programmer, and was by me as I saw it,
    said "that looks really interesting!!!") Now that I've seen how it all works, I'm even more appreciative of all the Net enables us to achieve, specially how it links us all together in communities like this one!
    PS: sorry I haven't joined you for any live sessions this year, just too busy to make it synchronous!!!

     

     

     Tags and How to Use Them

    Sarah Braxton

    #2119

    Feb 10

    This movie is incredible to me. I was going to post the link today! As a librarian, I teach students about the description and organization of information. As we become more dependent on tags for describing digital content I think it is important for us as ESL teachers to consider the tags that we and our students are using. Access to 2.0 content is based on sound tagging! If the information that we and are students create is to be made accessible to the world through feeds, then how can we ensure that the "aboutness" of information is universal? In essence, are our tags the same?

    Cheryl Oakes

    #2130

    Feb 10

    You do know how strange Mr. Dewey was and his structure of the libraries in the USA. I don't know if it extends to the planet.  However, now that all of us can provide structure and organizations with tags, I do believe it is important to teach our children/students/adults well, about connections. To me tags are the connections we make about an article, topic , thread. This particular thread would prompt me to tag this with Webheads, tags and connections. My thoughts.

     Michael Coghlan

    #2141

    Feb 11

    Sarah and Cheryl have been writing about tags. It took me ages to figure out the significance of what was going on with tags. Not only are people in the Web 2.0 producing content, but they are producing their own classification systems (with tags) so they can find it again easily, and enable others to find their content. I think I have just answered my own question - I was going to ask WHY it might be important for language learners to know about tagging. Or is the 'language learner' part of that question irrelevant? Is it just something - a new skill - that all teachers should be passing on to their students?
    It does always interest me when I tag something in Delicious http://del.icio.us/. Quite often other people have tagged the same resource quite differently to the way I tag it. I guess this means we have different ways of conceptualizing the same thing......

    Dennis Newson

    #2143

    Feb 11

    I decided that if I tried to be logical and orderly ( like Dewey?) about tags for delicious (I've actually got three collections, two for specific e-lists, one for me personally) I'd go crazy. Some of my personal tages would convince an outsider I was crazy already since they contain things
    like: "That program that M. is always talking about". It helps me to retrieve, but it would not help anyone else. My delicous entry for Second Life is Second World..... I misrembered it, but the tag still works for me and I have never edited it.

    Susan Wood

    #2144

    Feb 11

    The discussion about tags is fascinating. On a personal level, I have been struggling with this as I attempt to organize all of the useful ideas and links that have been flying past over the last few weeks of our course. The problem seems to be two-fold: creating systems that will reflect our own ways of thinking and creating/using systems that optimize usage by others. I've been mulling over how to approach this subject with one of my open advanced classes (which includes several psychologists!) and thought that Michael's observations about the ways
    that links are tagged in Del.icio.us would be a great place to start.I'd be very interested to hear what others in our group have to say about this: how are you teaching classification & tagging skills, and how would you use the web 2.0 tools to enhance this?

    Dafne Gonzalez

    #2149

    Feb 11

    I love tags, and especially the idea of having each person classify according to his/her own frame of mind, that´s why when we talk about tags we talk about folksonomy and not taxonomy. I usually have the same page under different tags, sometimes my tags are the same used by others, but not always, and this is fine, each person uses different attributes to categorize things.  When I ask my students to create brain maps about a text, it is very difficult to find 2 brain maps that are alike, same with tags. I wouldn`t teach students to tag, they learn to classify by attributes in pre-school, let them be free now. "Hey teacher leave them kids alone" ;-)

    Nelba

    #2150

    Feb 11

    I completely agree with Susan that this topic of tagging is really interesting to debate. I am new at del.icio.us and I am using it to tag all the links bawers are suggesting. I have a quick look at them and tag them for later detailed reading. But as any bookcase or private teacher's table with lots of material, I hope I will find what I am keeping ( One never finds what is looking for when he/she needs it - Murphy's rule).  I think that tagging reflects our way of thinking and classifying. That is personal.Nevertheless when options for the site I want to tag appear, I try to use one of them so somebody else can find it. Let's keep on this topic for a while or can anyone - I don´t offer myself because I have no idea how to do it- start a thread to follow the discussion?

    Susan Wood

    #2154

    Feb 11

    I agree completely with the importance of students creating their own organization/classifying schemes -- and that is why I was so intrigued by this discussion: this whole workshop has started me thinking about the ways that web 2.0 tools can help us to share, and if our tagging is obscure, then these treasures will not be found by other people and we will lose the interesting interactions that sharing generates.... so my question really had to do with the marriage of our systems with others. What do you think?

    Susan Wood

    #2158

    Feb 11

    Nelba, You and I are in the same boat! I, too, am new to Del.icio.us and have to confess that I often still resort to my old, familiar Mozilla bookmarks system which uses folders... This is not because I love folders (I really prefer the tagging system in Gmail to folders in Yahoo Mail, for example) but simply that I find the Delicious site to be somewhat visually confusing. I presume that this discomfort will fade, however, as I use Delicious more. With reference to the question of how to classify new treasures, I find that as I learn more about these tools that we are exploring, I keep changing my ideas of how to classify them and I have difficulty remembering what my initial impressions were, so I sometimes "lose" things temporarily. Do you do that? To answer your question about how to start threads: If you scroll down to the bottom right hand corner of the BaW 07 Yahoo groups messages page, you will see a clickable button titled "new topic" --that should do it!

    Maru del Campo

    #2178  

    Feb 11

    It is not a surprise, I am confused... Up to last week I only knew IE as browser, during voice week Vance suggested me to change to Mozilla because it works better with Java, I am also new at Del.icio.us.  So I have a tagging problem, when I really need to find something I resort to IE
    because I am familiar with the use of tags. At IE I have a folder with the new sites presented to me and another with the examples or pages generated by participants. I somehow inserted Delicious to Mozilla and when I want to tag something new I am not sure where to place it and I have found two tags pointing to the same place. I will have to get familiar with Mozilla and Delicious, spare time to sort out my tags and learn how my own organization works. I am having difficulty coping with all the new information, so in order to continue with the course I will
    have to leave this issue aside for two weeks or so.  I hope that by Baw08 I will have my tagging system working and ready to receive loads of new information.  I agree with you, everyone has his/her own way to sort out and organize information; the way each of us conceptualizes is unique.

     

     Reflections

    Maru del Campo

    #2086

    Feb 9

    Here are some reflexions: E learning sounds great from my desk; million possibilities emerge. Then… a nagging question pops up… How many Mexicans have access to a fully equipped computer?
    For Baw06, mine certainly was not. I was taking an e-learning workshop, along with other two friends. One of them works for an upper class University and her computer had everything required but the other two… Our teacher’s husband upgraded our computers; we bought headsets, XP Windows’s program, Norton Antivirus program, sound card, RAM memory, etc. (In addition, for BaW07, that sound card is making a background sound). In addition to the cost of the workshop, which we paid on installments, we spent more money on equipment. How many Mexicans can afford such expenses?
    Well, the alternative is to visit a cyber. The question now is: How many Mexican cyber have such powerful machines? I visited several in my
    neighborhood. BaW07 front page opens fine, in some YH needed to be upgraded, half of them do not have microphones; in most of them Alado, Elluminate and DiscoveryE did not open.  Which do open? Skype, YH, YM, Google, etc. Are there less heavy e learning programs available?

    Sharon Betts

    #2092

    Feb 9

    "How many Mexicans have access to a fully equipped computer?" This is a question I always have for any area. I have a wide mix of students and even if only a few do not have access, it makes it difficult to hold online lessons.

    Cheryl Oakes

    #2095

    Feb 9

    Hello all Webheads and Webheads to be, I've been checking through 2 days of messages. You are all very busy! There are movies, blogs, wikis and great conversations throughout. As a Member of the Webheads Class of 2006, I want you to remember all the names, faces and voices of those you have met this week. I remember my classmates from last year. When I check in with tappedin.or on Sunday mornings i often find my classmates. It is a wonderful feeling, and we have great conversations, memories and share new stories. In order to continue this commradiere remember to check the weekly conversations at http://www.tappedin.org there are many friends yet to meet and we always have coffee and Dennis brings bagels.  See you then to continue the conversations, remember it is all about the conversations!

     Maru del Campo

    #2187

    Feb 11

    I want to thank Hala, Mary, Amy and Gladys. They all left comments on my messy blog, I really appreciate the time you took to do so. Nelba and Dafne's messages helped me to place a clock on my blog. The conversation about tags made clear that it is a skill I need to practice. I could not join you for Saturday's live sessions, I will review the recordings. Thanks for posting them!! Least but not last, thanks to Moira's and week 4 team's excellent job!

    Mabel Quiroga

    #2193

    Feb 11

    Week 4 is coming to an end. For me, it's been a very busy (almost hectic) but very exciting week.  Virtual classrooms and voice tools are probably the area where most of us have less experience, and there's also more demand of technological capabilities on our side.At the same time, it's the closest you can get to replicating the atmosphere of a face to face class (that is, if you add, in Moira's words, the human touch). So I think it's worth the effort and hiccups!!  I'd also like to thank the Guest Speakers for their inspiring presentations and not forgetting that we are not tech savvy people, just teachers wanting to develop professionally to improve our teaching and our students' learning This session's participants are so enthusiastic and adventurous ! It's a real pleasure to learn with you! I would love to go interacting and exploring webtools with you all in the next few weeks and months (my skype and yahoo contact list are really crowded now):)  True, I came on board kind of last minute but I could cope with my share of the work thanks to hard working, humorous Moira and Chrissan, so it was a bit of work but I had so much fun and learnt so much!!! A final thank you note to coordinators Daf (I would have never been able to produce pages in the wiki if I hadn't counted on your samples and your help editing ), Teresa for wonderful tutorials and warm presence in the conference rooms and moderators Cora, Cris, Hala and Dennis Denos and all comoderators for behind (and on) the scenes warmth and support. Looking forward to week 5!

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